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GC Agent Fired

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MondayYogurt · 24/08/2020 21:32

The absolute thrill and power surge this TRA, Bethany Baptiste, must have felt in doing this.

twitter.com/storysorcery/status/1297708094122790918?s=21

Sorry if this is a dupe - I did search.

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AllWashedOut · 25/08/2020 11:31

I've been following a few lit agents on twitter that are pretty GC 'out'. Plenty of the others are woke-central though.

I was shocked to read about Sasha until I realised Tobias was NY-based. Massive eye roll. It's all going batshit crazy over the pond. I would hope things were less crazed over here. Depressing to read this crap. I feel so bad for Sasha, dropped in an eye blink on the words of some nutters.

SoManyActivities · 25/08/2020 11:21

Yes, I saw it was trending too. This is exactly what JKR was talking about when she spoke about 'cancel culture'. She wasn't talking about herself, as some of the hard of thinking appear to believe, she was talking about women like Sasha White.

queenofknives · 25/08/2020 11:18

Wow I too wish to know who the out GC agent is! I'm guessing it's a man...

This whole thing is such a fucking grift. I saw the agency are now saying they'll read any trans person's manuscript and donated money to pay for rent and surgery for black TW. It's a grift. It's so obvious. Before long, publishing will be full of trans writers who are there because they threatened to throw a fit if they weren't published. It's already getting a bit like that.

Mollscroll · 25/08/2020 11:16

Ironically their logo looks an awful lot like a woman's legs, hips and groin. In fact that's all I can see when I look at their logo Grin

Hope this reminds them what a woman is, every time they see it.

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AgnesCastus · 25/08/2020 10:49

Helmet I'd dearly love to PM you and ask for a clue as to who your agent might be, but I know that would be putting you on the spot and compromising your MN anonymity and I wouldn't do that.

I'm in the UK publishing industry and stalk twitter, saying nothing, liking nothing, but risking the odd GC follow. If anyone scrutinised my account they'd see I follow Jane Clare Jones, Fair Cop, Allison Bailey etc and know what my position is, but I have American publishers too and I can't risk doing more. (I've even name changed for this post, so dots can't be joined - I have a long MN posting history on lots of different subjects though now I'm 99% FWR.) Occasionally I see other authors I follow liking tweets by those accounts, so I have an idea of which of my friends are GC, but never any industry people. I was gutted by the amount of support shown to Damian Barr, and the number of people in my professional circle denouncing JKR, which just hammered home how dangerous it would be for me to give any hint of my views.

An out GC agent is a rare and marvellous thing.

ThePankhurstConnection · 25/08/2020 10:45

I'm disgusted by this. I shouldn't be shocked as this is happening more and more frequently but I want to keep being shocked because it is authoritarian and wrong and yes, shocking that this is where we are.

I see how little women are valued and how utterly spinless these publishing houses and companies really are.

Mammatino · 25/08/2020 10:44

It’s trending on Twitter now. How absolutely shite. I looked at her tweets expecting to find something blatantly anti trans. No just women are women. Sense really. Poor girl. I hate to think of women having To become martyrs just for being women and speaking the truth.

Helmetbymidnight · 25/08/2020 10:30

that tobias put a call out for trans and non binary writers, before he went off on his break.

my agent is gc and out (thank fuck) otherwise i would be sweating -even more than im usually sweating 😫 the publishing industry is really in the thick of all this.

Helmetbymidnight · 25/08/2020 10:21

everyone who speaks out is brave but especially so in america- the divide there is so strong...
we are good/democrats/non-racists therefore anyone who questions trans-ideology is a bigot.

nevermorelenore · 25/08/2020 10:20

Countdown to someone looking through this handmaiden's Twitter and finding something problematic in her deleted tweets.

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/08/2020 10:15

Crowd fund for a fainting couch.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 25/08/2020 10:07

Love the illogic there! They haven't actually engaged with what she did say, just took her to task for questioning 'They'!

Ah bless!

MondayYogurt · 25/08/2020 09:57

This author with 7,500 followers also wanted her fired for talking about pronouns.

twitter.com/madeline_pine/status/1297719611408781312?s=21

redpenpalsblog.com/author/mpine/

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Greenandcabbagelooking · 25/08/2020 09:28

If someone had been fired because they are trans, there would(rightly) have been outrage. This is exactly the same, and yet it is something that appears to be celebrated.

MondayYogurt · 25/08/2020 09:11

Interesting that trans writers are thanking Baptiste for drawing their attention to this heinous crime of wrongthink.

I'm now wondering how many trans-centred books the publishers will have to commit to in order to cater to all the submissions. It certainly wouldn't do for any of these eager writers to compare multiple rejections and conclude that it's all talk.

Time to pony up, Tobias. Put your money where your money is.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 25/08/2020 08:58

They may have shot themselves in the foot thre! One of their specialities is bodice rippers, women's sex fantasy writers.

They also have a strong BLM stance on their website - yet their team and most of their writers are white, even the ones who write on black lives, terrorism etc.

I emailed them and ridiculed their wokeness, wishing them well in their new trans/non binary niche!

highame · 25/08/2020 08:47

Yes, I see Kantastic. I thought it was something new. However, it appears there is still a bit of a storm out there, or am I wrong on that too. Must try and understand this twitter stuff.

Kantastic · 25/08/2020 08:39

JKR has tweeted about this

I think that's her Tweet about Maya F from approximately 800 years ago. Would be interesting if she does get involved in this. I imagine she plans her moves carefully so she'll only Tweet about this if she can make a significant impact somehow.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 25/08/2020 08:31

This is (again) chilling. I am moving to an organisation that I know to be fully immersed in Stonewall. I have already discussed with my partner the possibility that I may lose my job because of my views (and the fact that I will not be able to lie about them if push comes to shove).

highame · 25/08/2020 08:30

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop

JKR has tweeted about this. I can only find it on faircop as a retweet, someone else might be able to link. Lots of support but twitter are busy trying to delete likes and it's trending in UK

Kantastic · 25/08/2020 08:19

Hopefully Baptiste will reap what they sowed in terms of career destruction.

Interestingly, the agency have taken their list of clients off their webpage, I hope they too are feeling the heat in a big way. Their clients don't, obviously, deserve to be "cancelled" but I'll be boycotting them anyway - this situation only gets worse if we don't stoop to TRA tactics. .

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20191205075818/www.thetobiasagency.com/clients" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20191205075818/www.thetobiasagency.com/clients

yourhairiswinterfire · 25/08/2020 00:16

Hugely unfair that women who believe in biology appear to suddenly be the boogeyman.

And it's not even a belief. It's reality. Provable, undeniable reality. Gender identity is the belief here. I've yet to hear it explained in a way that doesn't involve sexist stereotypes.

We shouldn't be obliged to believe in gender identity, in the same way we're not obliged to believe in God.

BatShite · 25/08/2020 00:00

It is pathetic that so many employers are buckling to this nonsense. Hugely unfair that women who believe in biology appear to suddenly be the boogeyman. Being able to get sacked for believing wome ar sa real thing, and that womens rights should exist is just bloody scary.

ArabellaScott · 24/08/2020 23:28

How strange, some comments on the agents' facebook page don't all seem to be showing up.

yourhairiswinterfire · 24/08/2020 23:06

But saying TRAs are claiming biology isn't real is a 'strawman' right? Made up by GC people to make them (TRAs) look unhinged.

And cancel culture doesn't even exist anyway, right?

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