Ed Davey and Layla Moran

AllWashedOut

I also resigned my membership of the LDems before the last election - It took numerous emails for them to stop contacting me - national/London/constituency groups etc.

Each email included the words ‘women don’t have penises’. Lunacy.

@PaleBlueMoonligh You've crystallised why I gave up my membership a few months ago. I sent them a letter explaining why but not expecting a reply. Lo, an email popped into my inbox a few days later from some Lib Dem from London telling me that the Lib Dems would always fight for trans rights. Well, there, I thought. Best for everyone that they and me parted company. No regrets.

they now have a male leader demanding women be kind and let adult males define what a woman is and have access into singles sex spaces/sport.

When women say this they look naive. When men say this they look creepy - like perhaps they'd like women to let them in, too. Or homophobic and exclusionary - as though they think feminine men aren't 'real men', so should be thought of as women.

It's such a shame that the LDs have become the party of the ultra-woke. We have a great LD MP - so hard-working, responsive to local issues and always speaks up for this area (unlike the useless Con we used to have). But I cannot vote for the trans bullshit!

Ed Davey says the party has “lost touch with too many voters” but that he is listening.

Yeah, apart from women Ed, just label them transphobic and ignore them.

The 3 main parties in England lead by middle aged white men 2 of whom have been knighted. Not that I think Layla would have been any better

The optics of male ED doing this will be far worse than JS.

True. I'd love to see Emma Barnett interrogate him over this.

I've just read only 57% of people voted.
They really need to have a good look at themselves

I had hoped LM would win - to hasten the demise of the LDems - however they now have a male leader demanding women be kind and let adult males define what a woman is and have access into singles sex spaces/sport.

The optics of male ED doing this will be far worse than JS.

Last I checked, she was advocating votes for eleven-year-olds. Really.

Last time I spoke to my Lib Dem counsellor friend the whole party was behind Jo. They wanted a woman in charge. Layla must be pretty unpopular to have undone that narrative.

Big majority for Ed Davey.

So the Lib Dems reverted back to type after the Jo Swinson fiasco. Nice, safe, dependable, white, male, middle-aged, middle-class Sir Ed Davey.

Although tbf, Layla Moran is, well ...

It's Ed Davey

I wonder if her attitude to DV has improved.🤔

Neither...obvs

I asked ds1

He is voting for either of them and will be cancelling his membership as soon as he can be arsed

So hopefully by the time of the next election

Yes I saw that too gardenbird.

a rather fact free discourse. I wonder if either of them have ever looked at any relevant facts before making their policies. I noticed that they had a supportive comment from someone who shares a name with a certain former boxing promoter - not sure if I am allowed to name them on here.

I like the bloke who has been Eastbourne's MP off and in for a few years. Name escapes me. Even my Tory friend who lives there admits he's worked unceasingly for his ungrateful constituents.

I voted Lib Dem in my first GE; I reckoned even a pissed-up Charles Kennedy was roughly 197 times better than any other candidate. Sorely missed.
Didn't mind Campbell, and was ambivalent about Cable but every other leader since Kennedy has been a total and utter shower although Swinson has been by far the most jaw-droppingly awful. Genuinely wanted to ask her if she realized that she was in charge of a (supposedly) serious political party. Her losing her seat was the only bright spot of the early hours of December 13th.

Our local Lib dems are great, and are pretty much the reason I'm sticking around. But nationally! NO. Just NO.

So for Young liberals it is c 32 mins in

m.youtube.com/watch?v=DcHDHasC4WY&t=3883s

For diversity it is about 14.45

m.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZOztsnA6Ac

I’ll see if I can find a time-stamp later.

PaleBlue can you recall at what point in the video they mention these 'transphobic calls' as there is no way I can face hours of their nonsense?

'Transphobic callers'?! There was a sensible question from Victoria in Edinburgh, who clearly understood Self ID better than either of them. I would bloody well be ringing a journalist if I was her!

No. It's shite, though, they were my party of choice until it all went tits up.