British police forces not welcoming 'gender critical' job applications

If homosexual is offensive a) what is the recommended term b) who says it’s offensive and c) are heterosexual and bisexual also offensive??

S’ok I stopped being lazy and found the new fred !

I will repost on the new thread - can you add the link here when it’s ready?

This!

If officers were allowed to wear rainbow lanyards then why not badges belonging to other organisations that helped address issues facing the police, he asked.

“Should we ignore Women’s Aid. Cheshire has a domestic abuse problem and the constabulary’s record on solving rape cases appears to be sinking without trace? Let us not forget Shelter - the homeless on the streets is an ever increasing problem.”

But I don’t understand this - homosexual is offensive?

Cllr Thompson was also unhappy with Mr Fousert’s written reply to the PCC in which he referred to ‘homosexual relatives’ and the ‘homosexual community’.

He said by and large the term ‘homosexual’ was seen as offensive in the modern world.

And is he now comparing Bob Fousert (the guy who’s just been sacked) with Putin

“In the last month only two people in some form of public office have gone about talking about gay people as homosexuals. One is the chair of the Cheshire police and crime panel and one is Vladimir Putin,” he added.

Excuse my potty mouth. Beggars belief.

I agree that needs a separate thread.

I'm still open mouthed at the police rejecting applications from people who believe in maintaining the current law. It absolutely buggers belief.

Mr Fousert said: “Do you consider such an overt, political statement to be appropriate for a senior officer to wear given the police should be seen to be impartial in all it does and what message do you think this sends to officers and staff in terms of integrity, leadership and objectivity as espoused by the constabulary’s code of ethics?”

Cancel culture in action again. It is shocking that Mr. Fousert has been removed from his position in response to his incisive, pertinent question. It is also sadly unsurprising. The police should not be broadcasting partisan political support for any party or lobby group, for obvious reasons. They should be impartially and consistently investigating and arresting criminals. They have become a seriously unfunny joke in the UK.

I think that deserves its own thread.

Wow. That is disgusting. His question was powerful. I wonder if it would have been more acceptable to snowflake thinking had he worded it more diplomatically. Unlikely. Not so much a thin, blue line anymore - a rainbow coloured one perhaps?

I hope you are right midgebabe.

We matter.
We continue to make progress.

We really do not matter do we.

Bottom line: the police have allowed their investigation of rape to drop to an all time low such that the Victims' Commissioner for England and Wales has said (in tones of despair rather than approval) that rape might as well be decriminalised.

At the same time, the same police forces have said they would not knowingly employ a woman who believed biological sex was real and formed the material conditions of our oppression (including sexual violence).

The police are in effect saying "we will not bother to police violence against women, and we will also refuse to even acknowledge their existence."

Would they be prepared to go public about this attitude for any other marginalized group?

Home Office is a Stonewall Champion, and ministers never seem to stay in post long enough to work out what is going on in the civil service.

There is a huge world of difference between supporting trans rights...which I think many here do at heart

( they would agree that transpeople are fully entitled to all human rights and also that provision should be made to ensure they can have those rights. This is not the same as saying transrights are women's rights )

.....and stating that anyone gender critical is by definition not supporting those rights.

They are guilty of some nasty stereotyping at best.

In case any police officer is reading

Gender critical tend to think that gender is a harmful construct and would therefore not apply it to themselves, they would push to ensure that gender is not used to hurt people,

they don't insist that other people must not use those terms about themselves
They don't deny that other people think about themselves in those terms
They don't deny that there can be obstacles to transpeople living their lives free of prejudice and fear

Gender critical people tend to be women, so in applying an incorrect stereotype against gender critical people they are also indirectly discriminating against women. Breaking the equality act.

Time the Home Office got involved. Seems our public servants are no longer public servants but a cabal, therefore, could we withdraw our taxes. I might ask my Local Authority that very question

There is a huge difference between treating people impartially which should be the police's basic ethical position and demanding police officers must have a specific viewpoint on any belief held by an individual.

Their role is to occupy the neutral territory, and from there deal with protecting individuals legal rights and personal safety.

I dont need to believe a man can become a woman to protect that person from violence or abuse. But the police seem to think that their role isn't to protect a woman who is GC from abuse and threats. We all deserve protection or none of us do.

How far in were the calls so we can go straight to them?

It's worth listening to the whole hour when catch-up becomes available as there was an excellent caller in the last ten minutes. Sounded like a Mumsnetter ...

The story is in the Daily Mail and it looks like the National Police Chiefs Council are backing it. The Greater Manchester police chief has quoted the Equality Act and code of ethics to back up their views.

If only the police were this interested in disability rights and crimes targeted at disabled people. Funny isn't it, that after any of the scandalous disability hate crimes and murders there was no "back disability rights or you can't get in" headlines. Funny how they have no interest in protecting an actual vulnerable minority.
You would think a police chief could read the law he's quoting wouldn't you? Because doesn't the equality act refer to "gender reassignment" as a protected characteristic? In other words, they don't think humans can change sex either.