Stonewall drop Mermaids?

I'd love to be wrong, but I think we may be reading too much into all this. Vocal support by celebs for trans issues has been gradually tailing off for 2-3 years now. I don't think it's because the celebs have seen the light (with a few exceptions) - more that their PR teams are becoming aware of looming controversies, and advising them to stay clear. A few years ago, supporting a charity for trans kids seemed liked a risk-free no-brainer for celebs. That is no longer the case, but I'm not sure we're on the cusp of some mighty revolution that will sweep Mermaids away. Unfortunately.

Although it’s scary seeing it all laid out like that.

The farmers hypothesis to is that it's a sex abuse scandal of some sort but I can't see Jameela/Josie being privy to that kind of information so far ahead of the general public and media.

My money is still on orgs and prominent people being approached directly or indirectly through their reps and given a heads up that they are going to be listed as promotors of a dangerous ideology very publicly and allow them to prepare their response/defense to be included as part of whatever is being but together.

Brilliant post Kantastic, thank you!

Kantastic Chef's kiss - fantastic summary.

Was there ever an outcome on the data breaches? I cant find anything online past the initial investigation and I don't know enough about ico to gauge if this is irregular?

I don't think this has much to do with supporters, tbh. That's why I think it's legal. Supporters are immaterial if a charity is forced to dissolve.

I am so confused. Given everything we know about Mermaids already I genuinely can't imagine what would cause their supporters to disown them.

Regarding their staff, we already know about

• Sixteenth birthday penis operation
• Susie Green laughing about how puberty blockers caused complications in that operation.
• Thailand changing its laws apparently because of what Susie Green did
• Susie Green claiming that there should be no psychological assessments in place for kids to transition.
• A "cis woman" who works for Mermaids taking a transwoman to court for transphobia.

On an operational level we know that:

• Kids who get involved with Mermaids are more likely to receive trans treatments
• Tavistock staff have complained about Mermaids influencing children's decisions
• the number of kids being treated in trans clinics has increased 5000% over the last few years, there are suddenly far more than girls seeking trans treatments and no one has any explanation for this increase and the altered sex ratio, other than social contagion. Mermaids try to silence everyone who wants to discuss this and influences these children to get dangerous untested medical treatments.
• many of the children Mermaids influences are same-sex attracted or on the autistic spectrum.
• thirty staff have resigned from the Tavistock over the past few years and many of them have spoken up to raise concerns about how it is operating, some naming Mermaids as part of the problem.
• there was a massive data breach last year exposing private and personal information about the children Mermaids are working with.

On the medical level we know that:

• the protocol of blockers + x-sex hormones is a massive untested medical experiment on children and Mermaids advocates for this relentlessly
• there is considerable evidence that puberty blockers damage bones and causes osteoporosis
• there is considerable evidence that puberty blockers damages IQ
• the puberty blockers + x-sex hormone treatment causes infertility
• some evidence suggests the protocol causes considerable impairment in sexual functioning
• all the best evidence suggests that without this protocol most of the children being "treated" would desist and therefore not have to deal with iatrogenic bone damage, IQ damage, or infertility, or the additional risks associated with x-sex hormones
• many of the girls who were early adopters of this fad are already desisting, after considerable damage to their health and wellbeing.
• Bottom line: sure seems like thousands of gay and autistic children are being needlessly sterilised thanks to Mermaids.

Okay so now I've listed all this out, what on earth could make their supporters decide they've gone too far?

Anyone know of any actual concerns raised with Charity Commission, does the buck stop with them or really it's with the Trustees?
Charity Commission are UTTERLY toothless
and rather a chocolate teapot.
THey only take enforcement action AFTER the event

Anyone know of any actual concerns raised with Charity Commission, does the buck stop with them or really it's with the Trustees?

Given the alacrity with which former acolytes are purging their links, something seems afoot. Maybe after a total dereliction of duty by the Fourth Estate, as exwhy suggests, perhaps an expose is in the pipeline.

How did they get wind of something?
The court case was scheduled in January
the time scale of these things is that even without COVID it would have been later summer / early autumn.
The court bundles are being assembled
one side is going oh shit when they see the early versions

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/01/families-divided-tavistock-nhs-gender-clinic-judicial-review-goes-ahead

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/22/former-transgender-patient-tells-court-sex-change-clinic-putting/

Interesting. I hope everything is about to come crashing down.

How did they get wind of something?

as I said, I suspect some will have been approached for comment on something that will be hitting the news soon. Whether that's a investigative documentary, or the court case or possibly a combination of the two (investigative journalism piece riding on the court case and putting out feelers).

The entertainment/ pr industry is a small world, and once one set of legal / pr people get wind of something word soon gets around as they often represent many different people.

@exwhyzed @BertiesLanding

How did they get wind of something? that's now the burning question. BBC or lawsuits, we'd know as much as them.

Big media story, they can usually keep a lid on?

Is this the safeguarding case. As to be sued by your safeguarding officer is quite something given they work with vulnerable people?

TBH from my reading material
the court case that is brewing about the Tavistock giving life altering drugs without proper assessment to children too young to give legal consent
is making everybody reassess the advice they have parroted in the past.

Unlike a dead babies case sorry to be crass but it is a relevant comparison, the victims of this child abuse are now young, eloquent, angry adults
who will get even more angry and eloquent as the years go by

think Catholic Church for the potential seismic change

Thank you to all you ladies working hard on this. Watching with interest.