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The Times on survey about trans women in female refuges

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Collidascope · 11/08/2020 06:41

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f9a5cf58-db52-11ea-9bd5-8c0b68caf23e?shareToken=7bc3afb0702bed423076e5a246b59620

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NonnyMouse1337 · 11/08/2020 07:47

Yes, a lot of people still think the term 'trans woman' refers to some extremely tiny minority who have gone to great lengths to look very similar to women, have had genital surgery and so on. Some even think 'trans woman' is a woman (i.e. female) who is trans.

I don't know how these questions are asked in surveys. I suspect if they were straightforward without any sugar coating then the percentage would be much lower.

cheeseismydownfall · 11/08/2020 07:41

I'm still gobsmacked that 51 per cent of people are comfortable with trans women using a woman’s refuge. The only explanation I can think of is that people don't understand how broad the trans umbrella is and the principles of safeguarding.

I also question if the opinion of the general public is the most relevant voice here. Surely the opinions that matter are those of the women that use refuges, and the women who support them. I wonder what the outcome of that survey would be?

SunsetBeetch · 11/08/2020 07:07

Two good articles, thanks!

Collidascope · 11/08/2020 06:50

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5c22a9d0-db3a-11ea-8d9c-6a97b944a97b?shareToken=b51b32cfe3dfa63a24dc12770897273d

And a comment piece on preferred pronouns for anyone who's interested.

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