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Jameela and Josie backing away

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gardenbird48 · 10/08/2020 21:06

I’ve checked as much as I can and apparently Jameela Jamil and Josie Long (I’m not sure who she is but lots of followers) have deleted their tweets supporting Mermaids. Jameela also seems to have removed her unpleasant tweet(s) to JK Roeling (I don’t think I’ve missed them on the searches) An interesting development.

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moptophairshop · 11/08/2020 23:34

What a coincidence - Jameela posted a tweet this evening to say she's taking a Twitter break!

Doyoumind · 11/08/2020 22:56

I hadn't realised JL had also deleted all her tweets. Or is there something wrong with my Twitter?

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 11/08/2020 22:48

I got annoyed with Josie Long when she 'presented' a radio programme called 'Shortcuts' in her breathy, be kind voice. The programme absolutely epitomised 'Woke' - all style over substance and very few of the contributors had anythng real to say.

Ah, Josie’s Intolerable Whimsy Bullshit.

Woman’s proved an absolute fool.

Needmoresleep · 11/08/2020 21:23

I wonder if there is a documentary or something in the pipeline. The BBC got Saville wrong. Perhaps they don’t want to miss the big story again. And also the appointment of a new (chosen by Boris) Director General to be announced soon.

JoysOfString · 11/08/2020 21:15

There must be a lot of behind-the-scenes arguments at the BBC - it's very clear there have been at Woman's Hour, and there are other clearly GC people there despite the route they've been taking in general. So over time as various things become clear, like the situation with the Tavistock, detransitioners, mermaids etc. those on the side of reality will be gradually more listened to I imagine.

greennugget · 11/08/2020 21:00

I love Josie so much, but have had to step away due to her constant TWAW. not just kindly uninformed support, but the confusing and intense support that tends toward vicious and cruel against other than supportive of trans people.
She really influenced me a lot. I can literally draw a line between her comedy and humour, the kind encouragement she responded to my letter with, and the exciting opportunity I have this year. I had wondered if her having a baby might change her on the trans topic. We shall see.

Interestingly another lefty comedian after changing career to a scientific field removed the 'Mx' from her twitter bio. I am interested as to where she goes.

I hope Josie and Grace come round, I really like them in contrast to a lot of commenters here!!

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 11/08/2020 20:57

It's since the BBC dropped Mermaids, isn't it? Very. Slow. Dominoes.

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 20:43

Tesco, Starbucks...

lionheart · 11/08/2020 20:30

Ahh, thank you. I saw something mentioned on the twitter about it.

Sexnotgender · 11/08/2020 20:29

@RedToothBrush

Which larger charities / companies have been donating to Mermaids?

Like Children in Need and the National Lottery etc?

Cos THATS going to be interesting to keep an eye on.

Tesco did recently I think?
SunsetBeetch · 11/08/2020 20:27

@lionheart

So Mermaids has now changed its spiel on puberty blockers?
Ooooohhhh

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3993075-Mermaids-are-running-the-metaphorical-shredders

lionheart · 11/08/2020 20:10

So Mermaids has now changed its spiel on puberty blockers?

RedToothBrush · 11/08/2020 20:02

Which larger charities / companies have been donating to Mermaids?

Like Children in Need and the National Lottery etc?

Cos THATS going to be interesting to keep an eye on.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 11/08/2020 19:45

Shame on you, if you can't dance too.

Good song.

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 19:31

Shame about what?

Shame about the feminism, luv
Shame about that sparkly pony
Shame about the lawsuit
Shame about the cancellation
Just Shame...

thornyhousewife · 11/08/2020 19:29

Autobiography called, wait for it..... Shame.

Brew
NecessaryScene1 · 11/08/2020 19:29

For those who missed it, Magdalen Berns did one on Danielle Muscato. One of my favourites:

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 19:23

Book. Is it one on philosophy?

thornyhousewife · 11/08/2020 19:21

@Floisme

If it's purely housekeeping and nothing to do with Mermaids then I'm sure she will be keen to clarify...
JJ has said that it is not specific, just making her account more 'focused'.

I would bet that her publisher has made her clean up if they are to invest in marketing her book.

JoysOfString · 11/08/2020 18:02

man not many!

JoysOfString · 11/08/2020 18:01

I'm a bit conflicted about people like Muscato. On the one hand, not even making any effort to appear to be a woman seems like a pisstake. On the other, trying to somehow "be" a woman by performing stereotyped femininity with hair, heels, make-up, dresses etc does not bring a man any closer to being a woman either IMO. I think what Muscato is doing shows us the logical conclusion of self-ID - any many, however masculine-looking and behaving, just has to say he's a woman and the door is open. And that exposes the idiocy for what it is brilliantly - whether or not that's muscato's intent.

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 17:58

When does she never tweet a thought?

Floisme · 11/08/2020 17:57

If it's purely housekeeping and nothing to do with Mermaids then I'm sure she will be keen to clarify...

SerenityNowwwww · 11/08/2020 17:52

Doing a bit of housekeeping huh?

midclegs · 11/08/2020 17:51

Double-checked. Apart from 1 tweet she has deleted everything prior to July 1st. Perhaps she does want to wipe the slate clean but I don't think it's just about Mermaids?