Jameela and Josie backing away

Yes, I was very like that too contactus - except that I was also a tomboy, and traumatised by sexual abuse which made me hate my body - and this is a well-known factor in identifying as trans. And yet I knew I was still a girl and am now happy to be a woman.

Kids are totally being encouraged to think they are trans because they're confused, feel uncomfortable in their bodies or don't conform. It's horrifying. And I don't really understand the motivation for it. Why do the trans lobby want kids to be trans without questioning it, if it's such an oppressed life?

suzanne moore
@suzanne_moore
I see all you celebs deleting your tweets that supported the charity Mermaids? Wonder why you are doing that.

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Fruit farm? No clue here

Whatever happened to all those children who had ADHD? Remember when diagnosis was ramping up - it seemed that every other child was one the spectrum’ or needing drugs. My niece was prescribed Ritalin (?) - no, she is dyslexic...

I never go to the fruit farm. Are there some juicy pickings that will survive the journey over?

That is a highly entertaining account of JJ's antics SunsetBeetch.

That Mermaids pdf was unreal.

Two entire slides asking you to put yourself in the agonizing daily life of a trans child - but every single thing they describe (bar showering in the dark) was something I experienced as a child, and into my teens. I was lonely and friendless and my day-to-day life at school looked exactly like that. Right down to the little things like spending your lunch hour in a toilet stall and no-one noticing, or having "friends" who would pass the time of day with you in a shared class but didn't think you were good enough to be seen with outside of it.

I wasn't gender nonconforming. I wasn't visibly gay, and I went to huge lengths to hide how poor I was. I was just bullied because, frankly, children bully each other sometimes. I was a quiet, sensitive child who was top of every class, and a kid like that is often seen as an easy target. That's it. It happens in every class in every school in the country.

It horrifies me to think that a child might read that description of "living with secret dysphoria", connect it to their discomfort with their changing pubertal body, and then compare it to the rigid gender roles of the Genderbred man (or other Mermaids-sanctioned "teaching aids") and decided "oh, this feels like me. I must be trans".

Horrifying.

I love a bit of occasional fruit farming ... back soon.

Illuminating.

Oooooh. Too chicken to have a look. My blood pressure can’t take it in this heat!

The last couple of pages on a thread about JJ on a certain fruit-growing site are rather illuminating.

Twice yearly residentials • Whole family welcome
• Support for siblings
• Guest speakers
• Social contact
• Learn from others • Gives hope

www.pinktherapy.com/portals/0/CourseResources/Mermaids.pdf

See also the volunteers needed part of mermaids. Basically they need a lot of over 18s to volunteer.

But you need to give passport info to join the forums etc and be allowed to know when and where these residentials are.

I wish I could find a thread where we'd taken screen shots from the last website; it did say that over 13s could attend without a parent/ adult chaperone iirc. (I was v surprised at the time, it would be good to verify that.)

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Jameela can't take down Mermaids thanking her for the support though.

Jameela has been gleeful, vicious and shameless in her "close mouth open purse" statements.
I'd imagine she's been warned that legal stuff is about to go down with some of this and has been told to dissociate with some of it. It will be interesting seeing if she retains her links to MB.

I'd bloody love that.

ovarit.com

You need an invite code to register at the moment which I believe you can get by messaging the Ovarit account on Spinster or Twitter (if you have accounts there).

@Haworthia I can understand why you'd be really hacked off but look at the bigger picture. Mumsnet is now worldwide and an awful lot of women are coming to this site. If Mumsnet is seen as taking action, no one can take any court action because it would be bad faith and futile.

I think they are protecting all of us in the best way possible and though it has looked unfair, at times, I don't know how else such a contentious subject could be moderated. Stick with it

It wasn’t because I mentioned KC. I pointed out why they were the same and why they were different. The comment about why they were different was what got me zapped. Seems you can’t comment negatively on what Mermaids advocate for children, because you’ll get reported and zapped within minutes.

Can’t believe my comment about Kids Company was deleted. Everything I post in Feminism seems to get zapped even though I’m not trying to be inflammatory.

If anyone wants to signpost me to a place where women can talk feminist issues without being immediately reported by Mumsnet’s hordes of TRA lurkers, please let me know, because I think I’m done with Mumsnet.

I would ask what are the residential, but I don't think I want to know the answer

Virgin money fund the residentials.

Which is definitely the dodgiest set up ever.

A small part of me hopes that Jenny Murray is giving some parting shot lectures which may be filtering through...

Opps. I actually meant to say That’s good. Everyone needs a break. I’m sure all that deleting to be more focused is very wearing. I’m sure she’ll be back soon.

On another note - I do sometimes wonder how much we alert our monitors to that would pass them by otherwise. I’m sure JJs support is unwavering and I’m sure no one that she does support has asked questions on the back of our musings here.