"She looks like a right tramp"

It's not pedants corner though queen and you used a verb, which wouldn't make sense at all in the context...I might as well own being called a pedant! Been called worse 😂

I thought his choice was word was interesting. Soz.

Errr....I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt. I said before he was a weirdo. Of course it's wrong!

Where I come from 'tramp' is used interchangeably with 'scruff'. It's not necessarily sexist. It just means someone who looks rough. I couldn't get worked up about this.

The original language was sexist that's the whole point.

The numbers of people giving the guy the benefit of the doubt even though op knew full well how he meant it, and then he confirmed it, is weird.

[quote Notredamn ]You're being obtuse, queen. If you want to look at it like that, you're meaning a verb so that wouldn't make sense. [/quote]
I was just trying to inject a little levity into Pedants' Corner!

Such an interesting thread.

At first glance just by going of the OP, Him calling her a tramp wouldn’t have been sexualised to me. Just that she looked scruffy. He then went on to call her a slut - so he was using it in a sexualised way.

Where I grew up calling some one a tramp didn’t mean a misogynist comment, it means , scruffy, dirty, unkept.

As in ‘who’s just farted?’ ‘Eeeew you tramp that stinks’

Female and make fall foul to this

Either it's ok to call people a slut, tramp etc or it isn't.

Just because she's a drug dealer it doesn't mean it's ok. I equally wouldn't comment on how shit a fuck I'd reckon the guy was because its not related to what they are doing. The OP is pointing out sexualising when there is no need.

'She'd give it to me but I wouldn't as she's a druggie!' - who cares about your sexual thoughts, Brian?

How many woman do you see when an article about a drug dealer or someone who committed assault 'shame he did x he'd be a right good lay otherwise.'

It's double standards.

Erm so reporting how words are used commonly in my area means I'm a misogynist.

[quote Notredamn ]Where I live, people put or say 'right' in front of any word, to put emphasis on it. [/quote]
Here too!

And yes, it is quite rude. It's pejorative language, for sure!

See that reads to me like it could be your own prejudice about a woman's looks coming out there, Gerbil which is why I asked. Woman called a tramp= must be sexual, man called a tramp= must mean he looks like an actual tramp.

And all the talk of where people live would be great in Pedants Corner or Local but in FWR I'm a bit confused as to why it's relevant since:

He was using it in a misogynist way.

The OP confirmed this.

If someone sees a woman on the street and says, she looks like a right tramp, it will invariably mean (sorry for language) a slag.

If someone says he looks like a tramp it means scruffy. More likely to be a bit of a tramp. Never would be he looks like a right tramp . I can't imagine that being said. Real tramp maybe.

TBH tramp as in rough sleeping isn't used much any more where I live as it's considered a bit rude.

People would say he/ she looks a bit rough if that's what they were implying.

Because where I live it does notredame

Where I live, people put or say 'right' in front of any word, to put emphasis on it.

There's a difference in nuance between 'looking like a tramp' and 'looking like a right tramp'.

Why do you presume that 'tramp' directed towards a woman means something sexual, Gerbil? It usually does mean homeless looking.

Lol Queen

I've heard people say she looks like a tramp, and it's not to do with sleeping on the streets. If someone says he looks like a tramp, then it does.

The subtlety of language use seems to be lost on some

Don't project all that 'feminists are always looking to be offended', not in my direction anyway. Everyone who knows me knows I'm a Feminist. You're on the Feminist board.
Also please stop talking about people like they are not there. Address directly, or don't. No need for passive aggression.

You're being obtuse, queen. If you want to look at it like that, you're meaning a verb so that wouldn't make sense.

Tramp also means to go for a walk. So they guy probably meant she she looks like a long walk through the woods. Cos that's what people usually use it to mean where I live. So definitely there's no way that he could have meant something else, especially not anything misogynistic. Jeez the guy was just saying she looks like a walk, what's wrong with that? Feminists just go around trying to take offence at the stupidest things. Personally if someone calls me or my daughter/sister/mum a tramp I assume the absolute best of them and would never suspect any misogyny on their part. That's mean. When people talk about tramp stamps I assume they are talking about getting stamps from all the different places they've walked to.

Seriously. Lots of words have more than one meaning. The word tramp can be a derogatory word meaning slut or slag. That's what it was in this case. Whether or not you feel that's a common usage in your area or experience is really completely irrelevant and just comes over as trying to tell the OP that she's somehow mistaken or finding sexism where there is none. But it was clearly being used as a sexist slur in this case. Hence the exasperation.

Everyone on this thread needs in some cases

If you are sure he was being a sexist idiot and you were unhappy with the language call him on it. I know that can be hard but it’s the little challenges that we make that add up to changes. I know when we had drug dealers In our village people happily ignored the males doing it but seemed to fixate on the woman. I think it was down to shock (no gender equality in drug dealing), people seemed to be more angry at the woman, who was doing it with her two kids asleep in bed upstairs. No one batted an eyelid that the male drug dealer had kids dotted all over and never saw them.