"I do have two biological parents, but I have very little knowledge about their hormones, genitals, and other sex characteristics. I do, however, know their genders."

I don't think it's that odd.

My DC have two female parents. They know their donor is male but he could be any gender. One of their female parents went through a stage of declaring herself pansexual and pronoun-less. Thankfully that stage passed

They do know the sex characteristics of their birth mother and their donor but only one of them is their legal parent.

So yeah, families can come in all shapes, sizes and rainbow colours.

My dad had longer hair than my mum though for much of my childhood. And he did all the cleaning. And far more of the childcare. So maybe my mum is really my dad? She does love computer games and runs a company after all...

One can grow a beard and one can’t ? Now I've hit 45 I definitely could give that a go though.

It's just wrong isn't it. Grow a beard, or don't, buy into gender shenanigans, or don't, whatever - but you need male and female gametes to grow a baby in a female uterus in a female.

I suppose seeing your parents naked doesn't count? If sex is some big mystery? Or being a curious child and noticing that my mother menstruated? Or maybe, just maybe seeing photos of my mother big with child? (Playing a trumpet at a party for some very odd reason. She definitely cannot play.)

Mum - not sporty, likes painting, forthright and loving but no soft touch. Can be tough. Hates cooking and has no interest in makeup.

Dad - likes his creature comforts - wine, chocolate, coffee, enjoys watching sport, not a team player, sometimes moody, needs looking after, not a tough guy. Likes to wear good clothes.

Could they both be non binary?

And no I don’t know their genders. But I know their personalities quite well.

My parents never discussed their feelings about self identity.

I could see my dad's five o clock shadow and male pattern baldness though.

I do not get the logic in this person's train of thought at all.

Are these the same people who think the moon landings were a hoax - with Israel behind the whole thing for reasons that never seem to be made clear.

That is hilarious.

One wears a bra and one doesn’t ?

One can grow a beard and one can’t ?

One has periods and one definitely doesn’t?

LOne grew big with child and appeared to feed them from their front chest appendages and one didn’t ?

One uses a urinal and one doesn’t ? I mean I’ve never been in the urinals with my dad but I’d be surprised if he was queuing for the gents and then once there heading for a cubicle to wee because he actually doesn’t have a penis

I mean it’s true I have made some assumptions but I’m also pretty sure that my dad has a penis tho I’ve never seen it.

thehumanformerlyknownasfemale

Indeed. Anyone would think they are making things up to suit their agenda.

unfamiliAr

Makes me think of something the marvellous ManiacMagpie wrote, after having had a conversation with a TWAW couple during one of her Saturday protests

When I asked if they could look me in the eye and say that they didn't know which one of their parents impregnated the other - however they identified and whether or not they are trans - they yelled at me some more

I do hope Maniac Magpie is okay, it is a while since I've seen her on here. Inspiring woman.

For those unfamilier with what she did

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3374728-Call-for-gender-critical-people-in-Cambridge-UK?msgid=83250625#83250625

She can probably check out which one washes the dishes and which one sits around on their arse and make a fair guess.

I mean, I get knowing that your parents had sex to create you is uncomfortable for many people... but that's truly weapons grade denial.

Goodness, so despite having absolutely no idea who this person is, I already know more about her biological parents than she does? Ok.

Or is it just a huge coincidence that they get sent to females and not males?

I would argue the exact opposite. I know because of my existence the biological sex of my parents, but I have zero idea how they feel internally about the idea of gender.

Every person on earth with the smallest capacity for thought knows, without doubt, the sex of their biological parents, grandparents ad ... not quite infinitum, I suppose if you go millions or maybe it's billions of years back you'd get to an asexual ancestor. And you know that one was a fertile male, one was a fertile female - ivf notwithstanding, a woman produced their egg.

You don't need to know the exact details of their anatomy or hormone levels, whatever they were it was sufficient to know their sex unambiguously. The child is all the proof required.

Urgh, genitals, urgh, biology, like animals and stuff, urgh icky

I watched one of my parents go through menopause. If only I knew which one. Hmmm.

Reminds me of a rather rubbish detective novel I read where the teenager found baby photos of themselves with different parents, then their birth certificate with different parent names. DNA test showed they were her parents... But they had both under gone sex reassignment surgery so her mother was her father and vice versa. It made no sense whatsoever.

Bizarre attitude. And perhaps an odd relationship with her parents, too. We all know that our biological parents had the appropriate genitals, hormones and other sex characteristics to allow reproduction. Therefore we know their sexes. We may well not know what they feel like inside, what all their personal feelings, emotions, beliefs are. So maybe we don't know their 'gender identities'. But what kind of parent-child relationship has no intimate communication? I may never have seen my father's genitals, but he told me when he developed prostate cancer. My parents and I have talked about our hopes and our beliefs, have agreed or disagreed, have learned from each other.

The word gormless is far too under utilised.

Ooh I saw this.

How can someone profess to not know the sex of their parents?
I'm assuming she wasn't breastfed.

Gormless sophistry 🙄