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Trans Twitter Account redefining female

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toomanypillows · 08/08/2020 12:13

I am struggling with this one

twitter.com/TransSalamander/status/1291818785981124608?s=19

I don't really know what to say, but I think this dangerous ideology needs to somehow be challenged.

I work with teenagers and I listen and support all of their valid concerns and arguments, but this account is followed by some of the young people I know and it really worries me.

Does anyone have anything useful to say that I can store for when I'm having conversations about this with young people who possibly being persuaded down a tricky opinion-path by stuff like this?

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GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 08/08/2020 13:14

If you put their name into Google you can go to some interesting places.
Interesting enough for a holiday visit? Or best avoided?

Cwenthryth · 08/08/2020 12:53

That post doesn’t even attempt to redefine female - it’s just a load of nonsensical waffle. You can’t argue with stupid, so just let stupid be seen for what it is.

Female refers to a member of the sex class that produces large gametes. Trying to claim “transwomen are female” isn’t a redefinition, it’s just a falsehood.

nauticant · 08/08/2020 12:52

It's the old 69 Paradox helloareyouthere.

helloareyouthere · 08/08/2020 12:50

So those are two xy people in a lesbian relationship then?

helloareyouthere · 08/08/2020 12:48

Basically, we shouldn't let cis people move the goalposts like this. They think they get to redefine these words to exclude us based solely on a misinformed understanding of sex

Grin The lack of self-awareness is a wonder to behold. Are you sure this is not a spoof account in Titania McGrath mode?

334bu · 08/08/2020 12:47

Oops transposed my transGrin!

nauticant · 08/08/2020 12:45

Their bio:

Submissive plural trans lesbian furry artist toy collector (she/her) Property of @steampunkpenny

Other posts:

twitter.com/TransSalamander/status/1282529560836399105

If you put their name into Google you can go to some interesting places.

334bu · 08/08/2020 12:42

As it was posted by a _"Trans submissive plural lesbian furry artist". Confused I think they can safely be ignored.

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toomanypillows · 08/08/2020 12:38

It's quite something isn't it? And not isolated. (I wandered down a rabbithole a bit)

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midgebabe · 08/08/2020 12:37

And what about the women who have had a hysterectomy yet still don't get treated as equal to men?

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 08/08/2020 12:36

'sex is just as imaginary as gender when you use sex to obfuscate what you're really talking about (e.g., you're talking about uteruses, so just say that)'

Doesn't it occur to some people that a uterus does tend to come with a whole package: ovaries, a female pattern of hormones, no penis? Surely we need a word for that?

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toomanypillows · 08/08/2020 12:29

Thank you. It is stupid but it's this drip feed into vocabulary and conscience that worries me. Some of these kids are so woke it hurts!
I'll talk to them about the need for female /male markers medically, I think that's the base ground, but these people on Twitter have thousands of followers and they all retweet each other. There's a decent amount of people seeing these messages

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queenofknives · 08/08/2020 12:24

Honestly I think it's so stupid that it's helpful. You can ask if they think we need a special word for the half of the species that give birth, menstruate etc. What about females of other species? What makes them female and not male? I dunno, I think you could break this down quite easily. Most young people aren't stupid and will be able to see how extreme this is. I also think it's helpful to bring up the idea of a legal fiction- which is what the F marker on a TW's passport is.

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