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Kate Tempest - new name, new pronouns and a haircut

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MarSeeAh · 06/08/2020 21:36

I was listening to Jo Wiley’s show earlier and she announced that Kate Tempest, singer/poet, has announced that she is non-binary, now to be known as Kate, changed her pronouns to they ....

To be honest, I didn’t even know what Kate Tempest looked like, and the only song of hers which I know is “Peoples’ Faces” which Jo had just played - otherwise I wouldn’t have had a clue who she was talking about.

www.theguardian.com/music/2020/aug/06/kate-tempest-announces-they-are-non-binary-changes-name-to-kae

Going by images of Kate/Kae online, she had long hair until recently.

I grew up in the ‘70s and 80s when hair length was no indication at all of sex - because it isn’t!

Now, every time I see a girl or young woman get her long hair cut short, I’m waiting for the new name and pronouns to be announced.

Why this fixation on the superficial?

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gnomeisland · 06/08/2020 21:56

Glad they've dropped Tempest.
Was Dreary at best.

Helmetbymidnight · 06/08/2020 21:55

i just heard that incredible piece of art/poetry/song of 'peoples faces' on radio 2 and was blown away by her talent.

and then heard the announcement.
im not impressed.

GCAcademic · 06/08/2020 21:55

@Extraction20

How boring...
On the contrary, they must be very, very special and not like all the other boring, conventional people who stick rigidly to their assigned gender roles.

I would like to say bravo or brava to them, but sadly am not sufficiently proficient in Italian or wokeness to know what the gender neutral equivalent would be.

Lottapianos · 06/08/2020 21:54

I've heard a couple of Kate Tempest songs on 6 Music and been impressed. This nonsense though ...... so tedious ......

Justhadathought · 06/08/2020 21:51

It seems so convoluted and superfluous ( as well as self indulgent) to go through this big public rigmarole and announcement, rather than just cutting your hair and getting on with being yourself. When did people ever need this much external validation before?

I'm thinking it is the cultural product of the blend between consumerism ( select your own identity) and social media ( public announcements).

OhHolyJesus · 06/08/2020 21:51

Is this person about to release a new album? I expect it's on the horizon and will be full of tortured songs.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 06/08/2020 21:51

I feel that soon, it'll save time if we can just have announcements from those who don't need to declare gender identity changes/pronouns, etc. There'll be fewer, surely.

Teluna · 06/08/2020 21:47

Are there any young lesbians left?

HoneysuckIejasmine · 06/08/2020 21:47

Oh yes, I heard a snippet of this on the radio. My first thought was "who?" and my second was "that's nice".

I find non binary confusing. I don't feel I fit societal expectations of women either. But I don't conclude that I am therefore not a woman, I conclude that society should shut the hell up about what a woman should be.

WarmthAndDepth · 06/08/2020 21:45

I love love love KT: KT is not one for superficiality on any plane; on the contrary, KT writes rich, raw bordering on enlightened poetry which cuts deep to the heart of the human experience. I wonder if this is KT's way of expressing being 'gender-free', a reflection of the universal sexless experience of essential being, in the Zen sense. If not, I'm stumped.

Diverseduvet · 06/08/2020 21:44

I have no idea who Kate Tempest is, or the point of your point really.

Extraction20 · 06/08/2020 21:43

How boring...

SunsetBeetch · 06/08/2020 21:43

I have no idea who they are, but they sound like a pretentious dick.

I have never seen a definition of non binary that suggests anything to me other than gender non-conforming, which is nothing new or special.

Defaultname · 06/08/2020 21:42

Storm in a teacup.

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