Kate Tempest - new name, new pronouns and a haircut

KT’s wiki page is a bizarre read now, it sounds so odd , the contant use of they and them.

Why are these adults in their 30's considered young? Talk about extending adolescence!

Why this fixation on the superficial?
it's a combination of wanting to fit in with the wokerati and quite possibly an indication of unhappiness with KT's current life therefore a way out of an unpleasant situation (that's a guess - I don't know KT).

I was one who never was in sync with my peers and was mocked for it. If there had been social media when I was younger I would have proclaimed my eccentricity far and wide and likely been told to shut up as no one else cared.

Now after a long working life and having done a lot of interesting things it's fine not to have to force myself into others' expectations, and I have no interest in declaring myself "other" as the world won't give a fuck.

If KT is a lesbian then great; if not then also great. If KT gets pleasure from writing songs and poetry then KT should do so. But KT won't get rid of the female sexed body which will always be with KT no matter what label is placed on it.

It is a rather sad reflection of the contraction of expression young men and women especially seem to feel able to express. From talking to my DD I think what my generation thought of as personality, many people now filter through the lens of identity

Quite! And with added necessity of highly visible & public pronouncements. That's the social media age for you.

KT writes very good music / songs.

And I changed the above from she, and couldn’t bring myself to write Kae - I like t too much.

But good luck with it all (removing to her, I find they /them a poor comparison but will avoid).

I'm nominating this for post of the day.

It is a rather sad reflection of the contraction of expression young men and women especially seem to feel able to express.
From talking to my DD I think what my generation thought of as personality, many people now filter through the lens of identity.

Weetabix, er, yes.in my head she's about 21. Poets these days are getting younger all the time ...

I thought I might get a new haircut and declare myself non binary too.

Although I cant help feeling if my third person pronouns are going to be they/them, then my first person pronouns should be we/ours.

So yes we shall be non binary and our pronouns will be they/them.

Apols for repeating 'sex stereotypes' over and over. I think I'm developing an allergy to the word gender. Pity, it can be a useful term when not unmoored from original meaning.

Maybe the result of stricter stereotyping in childhood is the idea that if you're not Barbie or GI Joe you're must be some other Thing, instead of realising that everyone is an individual person? And no need to say know one feels in relation to sex stereotypes. It really is regressive. Just seems downright weird to those of us who have never especially subscribed to rigid sex stereotypes.

Anyone wondering why younger people seem so confused about gender should have a read of the comments btl here:

gender.wikia.org/wiki/Demiguy

It's as if they think the key to their personalities is some "gender identity." "I was born female and I like scented soap but not dresses so what does that make me?" "Errm....a person?" It's very alien to older people I think.

She is really young, though, and has had to do a lot of growing up in public.

What? I thought she was knocking on 40!

Certainly too old for this sort of adolescent carrying on.

Maybe it’s a ‘down with the kids’ thing?

Don't like her music, don't like her, why can't she just say she's a lesbian. Tedious as fuck.

I'm in the hairdressers. Short haircut. Changing my name to Jai and identifying as a glottal stop.

I've never heard of her and have no interest in her gender issues.

The poem seems pretty forced to me, in an immature way. I'd not be surprised someone who wrote this decided they were non-binary.

I think Jack Monroe has conceded she's a woman again, hasn't she? It's true that it feels like someone you admire has sold out, massively, and totally switched teams. Similar to Christine and the queens singer when she declared she was genderqueer and made it sound oh so new and exciting to play with gender as a singer.!! I mean haven't these women heard of prince, David bowie, boy George, limahl, Annie Lennox, Tracy Chapman, Patti Smith, Grace Jones etc etc...?!

Och I’m disappointed. I like Kate Tempest and I’m a bit dismayed she/them/whatever has bandwagon jumped along with self important douches like Jack Monroe.

Takes more courage these days to declare yourself a woman.
Coming out as NB - I really don't get this. You won't experience prejudice for this, bemusement maybe. It does seem to trivialise the experience of lesbians and gay men for whom coming out sometimes has consequences.

'We're all non binary. There's no coming out about it.'

God yes. This. So much

You're a woman KT. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with you. Wear your hair how you like, dress how you fancy, change your name if you want. There are MANY MANY ways to be a woman, and it can take time to find the way that works for you. This is NORMAL, frustrating sometimes, but NORMAL. Almost everyone feels the same way you do, to some degree.

and the people on my fb who think having your hair cut is like, a sign of true COURAGE.

i cant help thinking everyone who buys into this shit is an utter twat.

I tend to feel that the whole non binary malarkey is a bit 2018. Someone needs to come up with something even sillier if they want attention outwith Twitter & the Grauniad, surely?

I did quite like her description of the etymology of Kae, though. I suspect it's mostly bollocks, but I like bird imagery & symbolism...