HCPs - midwives, nurses, doctors - do you really use the term "assigned F/M at birth"?

Nah I don't work with babies at all but in a cancer related area and we just use men and women. Breast cancer is breast cancer (occasionally call the treatment site chest wall instead if post mastectomy as the breast tissue is no longer there). Prostate cancer signage mentions men a lot. Transsexuals have been rare in my career so far tbh. When I gave birth I didn't particularly notice ungendered language (I hadn't had my eyes opened to it yet) but i didn't know sex prior to birth and was told I had a girl, nobody assigned it she had female genitals and thats how we knew. Its funny how everyone knows what to look for to 'assign' sex.

"Assigned" sounds just like the sorting hat, doesn't it? You pop it on at age 11, not knowing what it will say, and instead of announcing its decision instantly, it turns out you can actually influence it if you feel strongly about not wanting to be a Slytherin, say.

So perhaps JKR really does bear some responsibility for all this crazy. Could it be that the TRAs are all just HP fans who imbibed magical thinking in their formative years? Transitioning is just their polyjuice potion, but it doesn't work on everyone so they get cross until people pretend it does.

I'm a bit disappointed, I imagined a moment of silent contemplation followed by ' I now assign this baby male/female.'

It's a bit ridiculous, isn't it, the "Assigned at Birth" thing, since as people said many/most parents find out during their scans and are told then.
So if anything it should "Assigned at Scan", not at birth, in the most cases.
But of course it is observed, not assigned, and everyone, everyone, knows it's because of external genitals.

We also had the NIPT, for our second child after several losses and we were told that she was a girl at 10 weeks pregnant as well. With my son we were told at 20 weeks during a scan. We never had a surprise at birth and neither child had their sex assigned at birth.

(Ooft. Way too many 'nevers' there)

Former midwife here - have never "assigned" anyone's baby M/F, only very recently I googled AFAB/AMAB myself. Never heard this used in a healthcare setting and hope never to.

This is all so ridiculous.

I was pg with my twins in 17-18, so 3 years ago now. Then, I had a NIPT (non invasive prenatal test also marketed as Harmony).

It observed male DNA so we knew at least one of the twins was a boy.

I was 10 WEEKS pregnant.

So no one assigned DS male. They didn't even inspect his genitals. They observed his gene when he was basically a tadpole of around 2 months' existence in his mother's uterus.

Assigned, my arse.

Another doctor who has never heard it used. Again on labour ward it’s always “it’s a girl” or “here’s your girl” no assignment nonsense.

@Kit19 Only by that Gilmore goon I expect but it's worth writing to the Royal College of Nursing to find out what should be taught and why he's allowed to teach.

He is male of course, and it's funny how equality has meant men surging into the NHS and taking over.

Of course it isn't. Clinicians don't just randomly assign sexes (or indeed genders) to babies.

I’ve delivered hundreds of babies and have never assigned a sex at birth! They’re male or female or unknown in rare cases where genitalia are ambiguous. This is such bollocks and if it comes my way I’ll be out of the profession. I’ve already noticed the increases use of gender on forms when they clearly mean sex. I have started to change gender to biological sex on social services forms. They seem to be the biggest culprits!

Gah too soon

So people trained in the past won’t use assigned at birth but i bet they are being taught to use it now

This guy who appears to be an assistant professor nursing seems doesn’t “subscribe to the concept of maje bodiedness”

twitter.com/gilmorejnurse/status/1291063467265458177?s=21

If people like this are teaching nursing I’m lost for words

He also dismissed all the people asking him clear direct questions about the impact of this as transphobes

I’m a Gp and I’ve never heard of this.

I'm due to give birth soon and every HCP I've seen so far has asked conversationally, "Do you know what you're having?" Me: "Yes, it's a boy". There won't be any assigning at birth.

No, never, and I have attended to thousands of newborn babies. The worst part is, it’s being written into legislation as something that happens.

IT'S BEEN ASSIGNED MALE!
That's a bit of a mouthful to fit across a helium balloon.

Of course not. It's made up bollocks for people with a massive agenda.

I’m a HCP (nhs nurse) and just use man/woman/alternative that the individual prefers. I’ve never heard the phrase ‘assigned xxx at birth’ used professionally.

I find it laughable that this term is used at all. 99% of people I know find out their unborn baby's sex before birth.

I'm a midwife. I say it's a boy/girl. Everyone does! The check boxes in our system for newborn details at birth are male/female/undetermined (for those rare babies born with DSDs).

HCP (although not one from your list)& have never heard that phrase be used.