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Audi drops not to subtle paedophile car advert!

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Knoxinbox · 05/08/2020 10:38

There is no way this was just badly thought through.... Hmm

I think this comment sums it up

“Let's add it up: Red=eroticism, sports car=substitute for potency, animal print mini-skirt=sex appeal, banana=phallic symbol. But sure this is all just accidental...”

Do you think this was someone testing the waters so to speak about how society might respond to something like this? I’ve read quite a few things on here about how the MRA has as its core aim to normalise paedophilia as just another sexual preference (eg minor attracted person) and this was what immediately jumped to my mind with this ad.

What do you think??

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Coffeeandbeans · 05/08/2020 13:27

Since when did little girls wear leopard skin patterns.

The Cadbury flake will always be remembered. The men on the board of Audi knew that. Why not use a car mad teenage boy?

SonEtLumiere · 05/08/2020 13:24

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Knoxinbox · 05/08/2020 13:23

mean Blush I mean “biological men” obviously

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queenofknives · 05/08/2020 13:21

If you're incapable of recognising the techniques used by the advertising industry and how/why they influence purchasing then that says more about you than about the people that can.

This. It says some very worrying things about people's media literacy, or lack thereof.

Knoxinbox · 05/08/2020 13:21

[quote Lettera]See also this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3986489-Audi-ad-girl-eating-banana[/quote]
Sorry I did a search and couldn’t see any other threads on it. Glad most of the people on that thread seem to agree how utterly inappropriate it is.

Maybe it isn’t some peadophile ad executive somewhere testing the waters to see how ready society is for this sh*t.... (even though it should be pretty obvious by now how many abusers are in positions of power and influence).

But like a pp said upthread about calling out all the subtle forms of sexism/racism etc because of the drip drip infiltrating nature of it into society I think it is definitely part of that. 10 years ago I bet no one would have thought that the TRA/MRA movement would have gained the traction it has in such a short space of time. To have laws changed in multiple countries reversing sex-based protection for women where mean with pensises can now access women’s rape centres, refuges, prisons, hospital wards, sports teams and women’s only short lists.

When I read on here about the evidence that paedophiles are trying to get “MAPs” to become a socially acceptable sexual orientation it makes me sick in my mouth. I feel like things like this ad matter. It’s all part of the boiling frog

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felineflutter · 05/08/2020 13:18

It is odd and yes it is a worry that this got clearance as an add for a sporty car. Maybe young women on the board do not link the imagery the same way as 40+ women do?

justanotherneighinparadise · 05/08/2020 13:16

[quote OvaHere]I agree with the OP. There's dodgy subliminal messaging there. I'd be less suspicious if ad agencies didn't have a long history of this sort of stuff.

Check out this Baby Soft abomination from the 70s

[/quote] Fucking hell.
Dozer · 05/08/2020 13:10

So this is AT LEAST the third v bad/dodgy Audi ad: this one, the one of an attractive woman falling over (comparing her to cars that look good but are not good!!! can’t find that online anymore), and the one in China comparing a woman to a used car.

Appalling.

bluebluezoo · 05/08/2020 12:58

I can’t believe anyone can look at that advert and think sexual thoughts!

I don’t think sexual thoughts. But my parenting instinct does kick in and tell me to grab that little girl and protect her- she looks like she’s been “arranged” or styled to provoke...

If that was an adult or teen female draped on a red supercar wearing sunglasses, a short leopard print dress, eating a banana, it would definitely be sexual.

I guess what I’m saying is while I don’t see it as sexual, it looks like someone is trying to mimic sexuality with a very young child.

BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 05/08/2020 12:55

says more about those making the observations to me.

If you're incapable of recognising the techniques used by the advertising industry and how/why they influence purchasing then that says more about you than about the people that can.

Not a single aspect of that add was accidental. It was all chosen and designed for a purpose. That purpose wasn't 'I know, red car is red, child is cute, and banana is fruit - that'll sell a high power car'.

The decisions were made in the context of an industry where imagery has clear meaning and intent. As has been said, red car = power, banana = phallic symbol, female used to sell cars = sex. It's not exactly cryptic. So either, best case scenario, someone has chosen these images without thinking of any of those connotations, and then it has been through approvals wherein no one else considered them, in which case their marketing team need to go back to uni to learn the basics, or they have deliberately chosen images which, in the public psyche, relate to sex and power, and then applied them to a child. Which is vile.

startrek90 · 05/08/2020 12:48

It's an odd advert. None of it 'goes' together, it's like they did 3 different adverts and put them all together and none of them work.

My actual first thought when I saw it was 'that's not a safe place for a small child to stand'. When I heard the slogan it just puzzled me more.

Adverts are supposed to stick in your head and I guess this one did just not perhaps the way it was intended. As someone in the market for a family car, still not buying an Audi.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 05/08/2020 12:47

But it is not always the case

At no point have a said that its never the case

Its the ONLY bit i have a problem with

One assumes victims may Also read into things as well as people who work both with paedophiles and their victims

Knoxinbox · 05/08/2020 12:47

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

The ‘only paedophiles see paedophilia’ thing is tiresome

Its like ‘only racists see racism’

Exactly.

Without the ability to “imagine” the nefarious motivations of child abusers and peadophiles and then act accordingly to minimise those risks there would be no such thing as child safeguarding.

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Sunrise234 · 05/08/2020 12:39

The ‘only paedophiles see paedophilia’ thing is tiresome

Its like ‘only racists see racism’

I understand what you’re saying. But it is not always the case. If you have ever read snippets of the diaries of peadophiles they will see an act like a child’s skirt rising or touching their leg as the child giving out a sexual message and ‘flirting’ with the man. Things that us normal people know are nothing sexual but a peado has a twisted mind.

Dozer · 05/08/2020 12:33

And here’s another v sexist 2017 audi ad, in China
thediplomat.com/2017/07/audi-apologizes-for-ad-in-china-comparing-women-to-used-cars/

Dozer · 05/08/2020 12:32

Boycotted audi (previously owned one) when changed cars, because of their awful woman falling over advert a few years ago.

OvaHere · 05/08/2020 12:31

I agree with the OP. There's dodgy subliminal messaging there. I'd be less suspicious if ad agencies didn't have a long history of this sort of stuff.

Check out this Baby Soft abomination from the 70s

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 05/08/2020 12:31

If you do an advert that's so bizarre, then people are going to deconstruct it in an attempt to have it make sense. And this advert just can't take that - there's too much that flags up when you start examining the individual elements.

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‘Let’s your heart beat faster - in every aspect‘

What does? The little girl? The banana? That she's standing in a dangerous place? The red car which is parked on a family driveway? Or are they saying the little girl's heart is beating faster? Doesn't look like she's excited to me. And in how many aspects can my heart beat faster?

It just doesn't make any sense at any level, and the individual elements are not just odd, but a tad dodgy.

ptumbi · 05/08/2020 12:31

Makes your heart beat faster? Hmm A female form has been used for decades to sell cars, usually scantily clad and leaning on the car, with or without a phallic symbol (banana, lollipop, dripping ice cream...) Somebody has made a tiny leap into a leopard-print clad young girl/child, plus phallic symbol, leaning on a car. And presumably it will make all the peado's hearts beat a lot faster.

The whole thing is repulsive. I'm amazed that some don't see it, and that is slightly worrying.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 05/08/2020 12:30

says more about those making the observations to me

What does it say

BlueJava · 05/08/2020 12:29

I didn't see anything wrong with the advert - small child looking cute eating a piece of fruit in front of a car. A red car is a car that is red, the banana is a piece of fruit, the car looks nice but doesn't look particularly sporty tbh, animal print is just a pattern on a skirt - says more about those making the observations to me.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 05/08/2020 12:25

The ‘only paedophiles see paedophilia’ thing is tiresome

Its like ‘only racists see racism’

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/08/2020 12:21

She’s posing, wearing sunglasses, eating a banana. Little girl in front of big red adult car. It jars because she doesn’t belong there

If it was a boy? Could we see him more easily as the driver?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/08/2020 12:20

Some pointed out that the driver would not be able to see the child in that pose, leaning on the grille

I though the girl WAS the driver.

DomDoesWotHeWants · 05/08/2020 12:18

I'm not seeing it. Some people have overactive imaginations, imo.

Don't like a child in front of a car but that's all I see.