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Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 03/08/2020 19:55

Apparently some stickers found their way onto the Lush Edinburgh storefront causing horror and consternation on Princes St this morning. They are too awful to be shared, obviously, but clearly they carried some message of hateful bigotry - or biological fact as it used to be known.

Anyway, staff on the thread are letting it be known that anyone wearing a T-shirt carrying the dictionary definition of a woman would not be served - haven't seen a comment on what would happen if it said 'I ❤️ JKR'. Not sure how legal that is.

www.facebook.com/116815671689234/posts/3431297510241017/

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ErrolTheDragon · 04/08/2020 09:35

DH gets bad eczema on his hands, glycerine soap from the local farmers is the one sort he's tried which doesn't exacerbate it. Obviously they're doing phone sales now.

www.tigermuffinsoaps.co.uk

BuffysBigSister · 04/08/2020 09:32

I'm allergic to Lush - now even more so! I have been buying Dook soap (dookofedinburgh.com) which seems like a great alternative to Lush Edinburgh. I buy from a wee gift shop. It's not cheap but it's a treat for myself and means I am supporting small local businesses.

Sexnotgender · 04/08/2020 09:32

MooGoo is excellent.

StillNotAGirl · 04/08/2020 09:30

@SophocIestheFox

Dammit, I don’t have any truck with the thrush bombs side of the business, but ultrabland face wash and skindrink moisturiser are the only things that my sensitive skin will tolerate. Anyone any ideas for alternatives?
Try MooGoo products SophoclestheFox I've been buying them for my mother who has eczema on her face and she's found them very soothing.
ProbablyFault · 04/08/2020 09:21

Lush:

All welcome
(apart from women, obvs)

woollyheart · 04/08/2020 09:17

Judging from comments here on problems with thrush, perhaps they should label their products as 'Not tested on vaginas'.

That way they can be avoided by people they are not intended for.

fatblackcatspaw · 04/08/2020 09:16

btw during covid with the extra handwashing my hands were developing dry patches which would not go away. I swapped to woman made goats milk soap from here and my hands are now FINE. carolmcmillansoaps.co.uk/

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 04/08/2020 09:14

Totally agree, DanceLikeEmmaGoldman.
Seems to me that buying locally from an eco friendly small business is far more genuinely socially useful than buying from a big chain that attempts to trade on its virtue through exclusion while profiteering.
This one is near me - twee name but lovely stuff.

fatblackcatspaw · 04/08/2020 09:12

Morgane Oger and Lush need I say any more

Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt
scalliondays · 04/08/2020 09:09

Lush isn't my cup of tea but my teenage daughter is partial to a shampoo bar or bathbomb - no more however as I can't deny my obviously bigoted view that my life has been shaped by my biology.... Interestingly she and her friends also know there are 2 sexes so I don't see this as a good business model for Lush once the current woke trend passes.

CasuallyMasculine · 04/08/2020 09:08

@Skyliner001

Love Lush stuff 💙❤️💛
Overpriced products aside, what do you think of their “student politics” business model?
CasuallyMasculine · 04/08/2020 09:06

@fatblackcatspaw

it says Keep Prisons Single Sex.... I mean all those Lush staff will need months and months ouf counselling now
So Posie was right when she said “Everything is Transphobic”.
woollyheart · 04/08/2020 09:04

@BaronessWrongCrowd Yes, if Lush have indeed said this, then it very much sounds like discrimination on the basis of sex.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 04/08/2020 09:04

There are lots of cottage industries making lovely soaps and lotions and the like, from ethically sourced ingredients. I used to like Lush products a couple of decades ago, but they discontinued the stuff I liked and hiked the prices up the wazoo.

I’ve discovered local companies making lovely things for lower cost and none of the virtue signalling.

fatblackcatspaw · 04/08/2020 09:04

it says Keep Prisons Single Sex.... I mean all those Lush staff will need months and months ouf counselling now

fatblackcatspaw · 04/08/2020 09:03

OOOH UPDATE I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE HORRIFIC TRANSPHOBIC STICKER !!!

Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt
VinylDetective · 04/08/2020 08:59

Damn, I love their purple shampoo. Now I’ll have to find an alternative. Off to S&B ...

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 08:51

Would a Wonder Woman T-shirt count?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/08/2020 08:49

There's no such thing as rape by deception. Erm, I am happy to say you are utterly wrong in that!

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/rape-and-sexual-offences-chapter-3-consent

Sexual Offences Act 1956
The Sexual offences Act 1956 contains no statutory definition of 'consent'. Juries must be told that the word should be given its ordinary meaning, and that there is a difference between 'consent' and 'submission'.

Lack of consent may be demonstrated by:

  • The complainant's assertion of force or threats;
  • Evidence that by reason of drink, drugs, sleep, age or mental disability the complainant was unaware of what was occurring and/ or incapable of giving valid consent; or
  • Evidence that the complainant was deceived as to the identity of the person with whom (s)he had intercourse.

Do you need anyone more knowledgeable than the CPS to tell you what consitutues rape?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/08/2020 08:47

@AnotherLass

"they lost me at the police campaign"

Because you think that it is totally fine for undercover cops to have CHILDREN with women they have deceived into fake long term relationships, in order to get information on some environmental activists?

Interesting brand of feminism you have there, given that the police spies only did this abusive shit to women. No men got to experience the joys of state sanctioned rape by deception. But nothing misogynistic was going on there at all. No siree

That’s interesting youve extrapolated out

Youve no idea of my opinion on that matter

Actually its not interesting...

fatblackcatspaw · 04/08/2020 08:47

on the facebook of Lush Edinburgh someone also posted a small piece about Lush's founder's daughter induging in Islamophobia in one of their London shops ....

Muttonindistress · 04/08/2020 08:45

[quote StandUpStraight]@CuriousaboutSamphire I may see you there Wink[/quote]
And me! We could form a possee (is that the right spelling? I’ve never written that word before). I couldn’t stay long though - the smell gives me a headache. 🤕

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 04/08/2020 08:43

Bioessentialist Grin

teawamutu · 04/08/2020 08:35

@Maduixa

I used to love them in the '90s. The only one of their products that survived their greedy price skyjacking for me was Sea Salt scrub, and I've since found a local supermarket sub for a fraction of the price.

Even after their bath products went £-shaped, I still liked their perfumes. Had time to kill at the Sauchiehall Street shop (Glasgow) last summer and sniffed all their frags, solid and liquid. They've all been replaced or reformulated, and none are unique or even nice. Even my once-beloved Kerbside Violet is now boring and overly sweet/chemical.

LUSH have the same issue as The Body Shop, IMO - what made them brilliant in the '90s is now commonplace, and their endless quest to raise prices but lower quality to increase the product margin ruins their signature quirky appeal. People have choices, and how many women would choose overpriced misogyny if it doesn't even smell amazing?

Agree completely - my Lush-only policy ebbed away the bigger, more expensive and corporate they got.

(The only thing I really miss is the Sea Salt scrub - please tell me more...?)

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 04/08/2020 08:31

Another thing that Lush ought to be aware of is that twitter isn't real life. Support from a screeching minority doesn't translate into everyone agreeing with them outside of the twitter bubble.
If you stopped people on the street and explained the problem here, most people would not agree with Lush's stance on this. I think that at present, most people aren't aware of what is being done to women here or the consequences for us, since most people aren't on twitter and aren't seeing the sort of comments women like JKR receive. They are getting their info from mainstream media which has also forgotten that twitter doesn't reflect what public opinion would be if truthfully informed.