Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

Very sorry about your business struggling in the current circumstances OldQueen1969.

Though I suppose they might be sufficiently blissfully ignorant as to not realise that 'keep prisons single sex' is shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted'. 'Return prisons to being single sex' would have been more accurate.

Haven't read the whole thread, but initial thoughts are....

FFS - Retail shops should display goods, people come in, buy them, walk out. When did retail have to become so damn politically fraught??

I have my own (in death throes - thanks interweebz and Covid) bricks and mortar shop. I have never refused to serve anyone because of what they were wearing. If they're handing me their moolah, I give not one fig - I would probably be less than welcoming to anyone wearing Nazi regalia and the item they desired may suddenly not ne for sale - likewise any white power symbolism - but that's me and my perogative and it's never happened because we're blatantly an inclusive space - inclusive to ALL unless behaviour is bad (like the drunk chap who fell asleep on my floor after terrorising my MIL with dementia and whom the police were most put out at having to remove as I apparently should have manhandled out said volatile chap myself apparently.... ) anyhoo, my point is that Lush stink. Literally. There is nothing remotely offensive about the dictionary definition of woman - it's a fact.

I'm offended by many "facts" but it's no=one else's problem and mine to manage.

Blanket political posturing by commercial outlets especially in this area really gets my goat.

Sorry for minor incoherence - breaking down my shop and it's depressing me. Oh for the luxury to be so wrongly picky about one's clientele......

[quote JudyGemstone]I've recently discovered Facetheory skincare products, they have great quality ingredients for really decent value. 'Vegan' and made in U.K.

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Thank you, I’ve looked at all the suggestions on this thread for an ultrabland cleanser dupe, and the vitamin c hot cloth one looks the closest yet! Bye bye lush.

Who are Lush's target market?

The young and the woke. Pre-teen through to 20-something year old women or rather anybody who identifies as one who like to think of themselves as warriors for justice doing their bit by buying overpriced, overperfumed "ethical" cosmetics.

That's not to say that people who aren't that demographic don't shop there too, but they're not the main target money.

Is it what the ‘business believes’? Or a Wokey staff member who wants to get their points? The one near me had hand made ‘black trans lives matter’ in their windows. Sounds like HQ just lets the kiddies get on with it.

KEEP
PRISONS
SINGLE
SEX
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So they are standing up against international human rights law which stipulates that for their protection, female prisoners must be accommodated seperately from male prisoners. On the basis of their sex.

I don't know about you, but a shop publicly declaring that you will unlawfully discriminate against a protected group asserting their protected characteristic because the shop opposes international human rights law designed to protect that group is a shitty stance whichever way you look at it.

I see Sula have a website too. Not to be confused with the us company of the same name (similar products). .coop.

Any recommendations for a good shampoo bar from another supplier? I'm happy to have an excuse to avoid Lush anyway.

I use this and it's great (also available in other scents, I know some people detest patchouli!). I get mine in my local health food/hippy cooperative, but Suma are a well known brand so they should be available elsewhere.

I've tried to post this three times now so apologies if I end up spamming the thread accidentally...

If the won't serve us in "women" t shirts, how about we all protest outside by wearing Harry Potter costumes.

I've lost my hairbrush so bagsy Hagrid! 😁

I've recently discovered Facetheory skincare products, they have great quality ingredients for really decent value. 'Vegan' and made in U.K.

www.facetheory.com/

They've deleted all the comments on their Instagram post! So cowardly. If you're going to be against single sex prisons then at least be proud of it!

Yup @OneWomanOneDog that's what I said earlier - although less succinctly!

I used to buy mine from henna-boy.co.uk

Direct action this week in London if anyone fancies it?
Aja🇯🇲🇬🇧🟥✊🏾 IStandWithJKR (@Aja02537920) Tweeted: So @LushLtd are you gonna kick me out your store for wearing a Tshirt with Women Adult Human Female on it?
Is that the game your gonna play huh?

Ok see you on the weekend and let's see how this plays out. twitter.com/Aja02537920/status/1290542232228048896?s=20

Having a look at their Facebook page, the pics of the letter depicting the 'kissing' day promotion are quite effective. There is one pic on the original blog post of someone actually kissing a woman's nipple with the promo shirt on.

Maybe we should all post kind of example of just how well Lush treat their employees? Obviously, their welfare is really as well regarded as women's.

That's incredible. They don't think prisons should be single sex? Wow.

I haven't bought anything from them sonce their Cosmetics To Go days. What they are offering is no longer unique, let's face it. And no longer all that nice.

They're courting the woke brigade
Who may wave their little sparkly flags on Twitter, but how many bath bombs do they actually buy?
Most Lush customers are preteen girls, or those buying gifts for preteen girls.
It's as daft as Tesco making the same announcement and seriously imagining it wouldn't have a detrimental effect on sales.

Deliberately offending those who are not your target market is a calculated, deliberate and often successful marketing strategy.

Thank you to the person who prompted me to look up the CEO's photo. Yes it's damn obvious where the mysogyny of lush comes from.

I stopped buying their shyte when they supported the hunt sabs - an organisation with a long history of violence against animals and people whilst claiming to be against violence towards animals.

The police campaign was controversial not because of what they were claiming to support but how the marketing was executed made it look like they were anti (all) police.

The kissing campaign that was women (no extra large women though) wearing t-shirts which members of the public were encouraged to kiss.

They did a 10 hour live stream "animal testing" on a performance artist dressed in nude clothing on a leash in their window. She was force fed, injected with saline and some other stuff.

It was female staff who were "strongly encouraged" to go naked under their aprons for a campaign about excess packaging.

They're no stranger to controversy in their marketing. It's a deliberate strategy. They know exactly what they are doing. They're courting the woke brigade. This is exactly in alignment with their target market, woke young women who have drunk the kool-aid.

I think the most effective response to this incident is to stop giving it airtime. One person placing one sticker has given them the opportunity for outrage porn marketing for free. Let's not.

We are not the target market - as you can tell by the proportion of people replying who are disappointed to not be able to boycott them. We are just props in their outrage porn movie.