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Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 03/08/2020 19:55

Apparently some stickers found their way onto the Lush Edinburgh storefront causing horror and consternation on Princes St this morning. They are too awful to be shared, obviously, but clearly they carried some message of hateful bigotry - or biological fact as it used to be known.

Anyway, staff on the thread are letting it be known that anyone wearing a T-shirt carrying the dictionary definition of a woman would not be served - haven't seen a comment on what would happen if it said 'I ❤️ JKR'. Not sure how legal that is.

www.facebook.com/116815671689234/posts/3431297510241017/

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Soubriquet · 04/08/2020 16:33

So because they didn’t get 100% “you go girl! So right. I can’t believe anyone would disagree” they have removed it?

I bet they didn’t like the fact people bought up the kiss thing either

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 16:33

@PotholeParadise

I don't see Lush losing any money over this, at all.
I think most people know what a bunch of twits they are from past exploits so they are probably already sinking slowly like the titanic, and this is just desperate attempt to attract attention.
northstars · 04/08/2020 16:30

You’d think they would learn from Body Shop. Oh well. Smile

BaronessWrongCrowd · 04/08/2020 16:29

Possibly someone higher up pointed out that what they proposed to do was in fact illegal.
Or they realised that alienating your core market with sexist bilge and virtue signalling wasn't a good business model.

Shame about the screenshots which I hope are bring circulated far and wide.

PotholeParadise · 04/08/2020 16:29

I don't see Lush losing any money over this, at all.

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 16:28

Wear your ‘woman’ T-shirt back to front and have a laugh when you leave the store (empty handed)

bishopgiggles · 04/08/2020 16:28

Could you wear a t-shirt that said woman = adult human anyone, but cover up the last word with a hoody so you get thrown out for being inclusive?

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 16:24

Anyone near Edinburgh want to take a wee look?

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 04/08/2020 16:23

Wow, it's almost like they thought that silly sign would be a few easy-won woke points, and it's turned out to not go down so well so they've immediately backed away from it. Silly arses don't even have the courage of their convictions.

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 16:23

The ‘poor floor staff’? Have you met some of them? They often have the vibe of stage school kids.

All the nasty stories of virtually naked staff (getting groped, propositioned and sexually assaulted by creepy customers) is just mind boggling. Against sexism my arse.

lowlandLucky · 04/08/2020 16:23

I would say "cancel" Lush but i am a mere middle aged woman ( yes a woman) who hasn't a clue what it means or how to do it

grafittiartist · 04/08/2020 16:21

I have to say that this all bothers me because it's the poor shop floor staff having to police and manage this.
I'd happily protest, but it's never to the right people. The staff may or may not agree with their shops policy, and it's not a nice position to be in Id imagine.

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 16:18

Oh hang on... it appeared to be locked (so comments bit showing) and now it’s gone puffffft.

Fearty wee Weasels.

Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt
FairfaxAikman · 04/08/2020 16:17

@MrsJamin

It's just a big pr stunt isn't it? Be woke and be offended to get your shop in the spotlight. I wonder whether any of them at lush actually believe prisons should be unisex. They got into an Edinburgh online news site that just copied the info from the Facebook post without saying what the sticker was, which suits lush's chosen narrative. I wonder whether lush Edinburgh just tipped them off and paid for the article? It actually seems like the most likely reason for them putting that big sign in their shop.
Edinburgh Live by any chance? Their Editor is Hilary Mitchell (formerly of Buzzfeed) and she is a self-described trans ally.
SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 16:14

Nope it’s still there. Have you been put on the naughty step?

Sexnotgender · 04/08/2020 16:13

@northstars

Have they deleted their Facebook post? Shock can’t open the link
I can’t either. I suspect they’ve either deleted it or banned us terrible women from it.
northstars · 04/08/2020 16:11

Have they deleted their Facebook post? Shock can’t open the link

MrsJamin · 04/08/2020 16:10

It's just a big pr stunt isn't it? Be woke and be offended to get your shop in the spotlight. I wonder whether any of them at lush actually believe prisons should be unisex. They got into an Edinburgh online news site that just copied the info from the Facebook post without saying what the sticker was, which suits lush's chosen narrative. I wonder whether lush Edinburgh just tipped them off and paid for the article? It actually seems like the most likely reason for them putting that big sign in their shop.

JudyGemstone · 04/08/2020 16:09

Sophocles - they have an online test thing that recommends suitable products, although they're really responsive on Facebook if you have any questions and will refund if no good.

(I don't work for them!)

OldQueen1969 · 04/08/2020 16:07

@NonnyMouse1337 Thank you..... much appreciated xxx

Onestepup · 04/08/2020 16:07

Shame Lush are truth phobic, science phobic and woman phobic.They are also uneducated on trans topics if they think recognising biological sex is 'transphobic'.

Coffeeandbeans · 04/08/2020 16:06

They lost me at their police campaign. Over priced smelly stuff.

SophocIestheFox · 04/08/2020 16:04

I fully expect to order a takeaway without being lectured on whether there is a solution to conflict in the Middle East, I generally get my gas supplied without the company handwringing over Faroese whaling, so why can’t I buy my fucking moisturiser without the side order of moralising??

SilverOtter · 04/08/2020 15:59

I've hated them ever since discovering they backed hunt sabs years ago. Their current stance does not shock me unfortunately.

contactusdeletus · 04/08/2020 15:58

@StillNotAGirl

Would they serve someone wearing a man definition tee-shirt I wonder?

And would it make a difference whether it was a man or a woman wearing said tee-shirt?

Hmm

This interests me, and could be an eye-opening way to protest. Get male allies to wear the "woman = adult human female" t shirts, and watch as Lush predictably does not confront or refuse to serve them. Then get women to try the same. Undercover record the experiences of each, publish the video online, and then threaten legal action (as at this point sex-based discrimination would clearly be at play).

Note: I would blur the faces of the shop employees if anyone does pick up on this idea, as the rot comes from the top and it's not fair to punish them for obeying orders from management. I would also not initially attempt to engage staff in conversation about the issues. Just walk in with the shirt on full display and buy some small (preferably returnable) item. If challenged we and our allies can then calmly ask what's offensive about defining a woman according the dictionary, and why we can't choose to self-identify according to sex.

There's no Lush store near me and I don't have any male allies who would care enough to get involved, but I would really love to do it. I'm sick of this sexist nonsense going unchecked by corporations who specifically market their products to women. Bad PR is the least they deserve.