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Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 03/08/2020 19:55

Apparently some stickers found their way onto the Lush Edinburgh storefront causing horror and consternation on Princes St this morning. They are too awful to be shared, obviously, but clearly they carried some message of hateful bigotry - or biological fact as it used to be known.

Anyway, staff on the thread are letting it be known that anyone wearing a T-shirt carrying the dictionary definition of a woman would not be served - haven't seen a comment on what would happen if it said 'I ❤️ JKR'. Not sure how legal that is.

www.facebook.com/116815671689234/posts/3431297510241017/

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NiceGerbil · 04/08/2020 22:49

Re the police/ hunt sabs/ trans things

Why are they taking stances on highly contraversial political and social issues which are unrelated to their product?

Ok hunt sabs maybe isn't but it's a very contraversial area and links into a whole load of other deep stuff, how you feel about govt, society, the police, etc etc.

Posts on here on these things would run into a thousand posts and max out. They are multifaceted and really need careful navigation. They are aspects of a whole load of other really important deep questions like, do you trust the 'authorities'? Etc etc. I won't go on.

They aren't well served on Twitter.

Why the fuck are they doing one sign in a window in a soap shop?

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My guess is that the owners know their brand is trusted and used by young people who are still impressionable. And they will connect those messages with 'good'.

So actually, whether you agree with whatever they say or not. It's propoganda aimed at the young.

Just thought of that and it's not great, is it.

FemaleAndLearning · 04/08/2020 22:40

I interacted with the Lush
Edinburgh Facebook post a lot today and I can't see any of it now, all my notifications have gone too.
I was told to fuck off TERF and called narrow minded among other things. I displayed no such hostility.
I did manage to link to Standing for Women's sticker page and the terf is a slur website.
It really is pointless trying to converse with people of this ideology as they just end up being abusive every single time, but I couldn't help myself today!

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/08/2020 22:38

I could’ve worded that better

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 04/08/2020 22:37

@SerenityNowwwww

The store can’t being themselves to repeat the ‘attacks’. Which means they are complete melts or know it’s a load of crap.
Im going crap
Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 04/08/2020 21:40

The Edinburgh Live article is appalling!

Also, there were a darn sight more than 10 people at the FWS meeting!

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SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 21:17

The store can’t being themselves to repeat the ‘attacks’. Which means they are complete melts or know it’s a load of crap.

MrsJamin · 04/08/2020 21:15

People are kicking off on twitter saying that photo with the sticker isn't in Edinburgh as the colours of the shops don't match. Are we absolutely sure that that's what the sticker said?

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 21:03

In fact, I’d buy a T-shirt with a picture of them on it wearing their T-shirt’s outside said Lush branch...

Thisismytimetoshine · 04/08/2020 20:55

They'll never have to buy their own pints again if they will! I'll start the kitty 😊

EmpressJKRowlingSpartacus · 04/08/2020 20:54

twitter.com/noxyinxxprisons/status/1290580119753564160?s=21

Keep Prisons Single Sex are talking about printing T-shirts with their slogan & asking Lush if they’d refuse service to people wearing them. No response yet....

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 20:51

@PhoebeSnow

The Facebook has definitely gone, hope someone managed to get screenshots of it. Lush can fuck off along with The Body Shop! They have proved beyond any doubt that they are idiots. I have asked my male cousin and his partner to please buy two shirts ( do they come in large sizes to fit two 6 ft rugby player types?) and wear them to the Edinburgh shop on Princes Street, let’s see how the staff deal with two large GC gay men!
Oh please please please please! I’d buy them a pint if they will!
MrsJamin · 04/08/2020 20:50

Yeah rhonas post has gone. At least there's a screenshot of it above.

Lordamighty · 04/08/2020 20:43

I can’t find the post by Rhona Hotchkiss now either, what a dreadful company Lush are. Some of the lies about the sticker are readily being shared though.

fatblackcatspaw · 04/08/2020 20:34

oh oh marvellous! I will order more stickers as soon as I have the money and go sticker slap happy

PhoebeSnow · 04/08/2020 20:29

The Facebook has definitely gone, hope someone managed to get screenshots of it.
Lush can fuck off along with The Body Shop! They have proved beyond any doubt that they are idiots.
I have asked my male cousin and his partner to please buy two shirts ( do they come in large sizes to fit two 6 ft rugby player types?) and wear them to the Edinburgh shop on Princes Street, let’s see how the staff deal with two large GC gay men!

BuffysBigSister · 04/08/2020 20:21

Although the Lush Facebook post seems to have disappeared, the (incredibly one-sided) article by Edinburgh Live is still available on their Facebook page for comment.

MorrisZapp · 04/08/2020 20:13

I can't access the fb article now, or the likes and comments I got when I commented this morning. Same thing happened when I had a similar chat on Sali Hughes fb group.

It's like the conversation we're not allowed to have.

emdrneeded · 04/08/2020 19:29

I never go in lush anymore. Everyone who works in my local one act like they're on speed. Awful company.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 04/08/2020 19:26

I forgot who was asking about shampoo bars above but Ethique do very good shampoo and conditioner bars, the pink one smells amazing! I'm still searching for a really good 2-in-1 shampoo/conditioner bar though 😟 Any recommendations welcome!

I also agree Yorkshire soap co are very good, their Hedgerow bar smells incredible! It's quite expensive but seems to last forever, so I don't mind. (Some of the Lush ones, back when I still used them, seemed to melt away in a matter of days!).

PinkyBrain · 04/08/2020 19:22

Lush lost me as a customer a while back over the police debacle. Not for me thanks.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 04/08/2020 19:20

highame one of the big concerns is the psychological impact. Many of the women in prisons (in fact most, I believe) are victims of male violence, including DV and sexual violence. For these women, a male sharing their accommodation doesn't even need to do anything bad for their presence to be upsetting, even traumatising. More so if bathroom facilities are shared. Then there are potential low-level behaviours such as staring at women's bodies, making sexual comments etc which wouldn't necessarily be reported and might be very hard to prove. Add in the gaslighting effect of being made to pretend this person is a woman, and it's a recipe for wrecking women's mental health I'd imagine.

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 19:19

Can anyone see the Facebook post then?

SerenityNowwwww · 04/08/2020 19:17

@Lordamighty

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EmpressJKRowlingSpartacus · 04/08/2020 18:30

I use wild-sage.co.uk. Lovely stuff, & an all-women family business.

fatblackcatspaw · 04/08/2020 18:15

in terms of alternatives to Lush this is more serious creams etc but the camomile cream is a lifesaver on my itch prone skin napiers.net/ woman owned