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Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 03/08/2020 19:55

Apparently some stickers found their way onto the Lush Edinburgh storefront causing horror and consternation on Princes St this morning. They are too awful to be shared, obviously, but clearly they carried some message of hateful bigotry - or biological fact as it used to be known.

Anyway, staff on the thread are letting it be known that anyone wearing a T-shirt carrying the dictionary definition of a woman would not be served - haven't seen a comment on what would happen if it said 'I ❤️ JKR'. Not sure how legal that is.

www.facebook.com/116815671689234/posts/3431297510241017/

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Jintyfer · 06/08/2020 07:58

@MrsJamin

I've no idea how much this "journalist" was paid for this Independent article but I hazard a guess it was too much for cutting and pasting. What was the point? Where are the journalists who are asking "what did the sticker say and was it actually transphobic?"
God yeah @MrsJamin what a pathetic piece of writing. Waste of a page. No point to it whatsoever. Just Wish it was really bad publicity for LUSH but not sure it is, to most.
MrsJamin · 06/08/2020 07:04

I've no idea how much this "journalist" was paid for this Independent article but I hazard a guess it was too much for cutting and pasting. What was the point? Where are the journalists who are asking "what did the sticker say and was it actually transphobic?"

ItsLateHumpty · 06/08/2020 03:06

@highame Star for The Daily Uterus Award Grin

I’m glad you got likes, even if the post is now deleted.

And Gin for telling us your name.

DeRigueurMortis · 06/08/2020 00:38

I got asked to go into Lush a few years ago by DSD.

Frankly I couldn't wait to get out. The smell was overwhelming and the staff pushy rather than helpful in a way that was obviously "trained" (as I was waiting for DSD I was approached by multiple staff asking if I needed help as guise into pressing me to sample a product).

All I could think was you must be pretty desperate or "motivated" to work there.

My assumption is now the latter in so far their virtue signalling is possibly not actually so much about the consumer but in attracting woke staff who will put up with working in both a way and in conditions that others would not because they by association are "virtuous".

SpiralHecate · 05/08/2020 21:53

@Thisismytimetoshine

I can't think how many male customers want their sparkly shite, so as a marketing strategy it's fundamentally flawed.
I'm guessing the only time Lush is full of male customers is once a year when they encourage staff to work naked?
Ohnonononononono · 05/08/2020 20:45

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MrsJamin · 05/08/2020 19:15

I just don't know why a soap company would want to wade in on such contentious debates just to sell a bit more soap. It sounds like the soap isn't good enough to sell itself, quite frankly.

Ohnonononononono · 05/08/2020 17:22

@NiceGerbil

Re the police/ hunt sabs/ trans things

Why are they taking stances on highly contraversial political and social issues which are unrelated to their product?

Ok hunt sabs maybe isn't but it's a very contraversial area and links into a whole load of other deep stuff, how you feel about govt, society, the police, etc etc.

Posts on here on these things would run into a thousand posts and max out. They are multifaceted and really need careful navigation. They are aspects of a whole load of other really important deep questions like, do you trust the 'authorities'? Etc etc. I won't go on.

They aren't well served on Twitter.

Why the fuck are they doing one sign in a window in a soap shop?

...

My guess is that the owners know their brand is trusted and used by young people who are still impressionable. And they will connect those messages with 'good'.

So actually, whether you agree with whatever they say or not. It's propoganda aimed at the young.

Just thought of that and it's not great, is it.

Named main campaigners in one of the undercover opposition groups:

campaignopposingpolicesurveillance.com/2014/10/25/cops-public-meeting/

See the bottom one. He addressed a conference of Lush managers about how rapey undercovers were (can't find the video at the moment).

Slightly unfortunate choice of spokesman - his employer issued a statement back in 2018 that they had parted company with him due to multiple allegations of rape/sexual assault, amongst other things. All of which they (and Lush, and his 'comrades ' at COPS/allies in PSOL) had known about for years.

Sorry, slight tangent as to why I have hated lush for years.

AlphaDalpha · 05/08/2020 16:54

I've boycotted them since they supported the hunt saboteurs association, not because I'm pro fox hunting but because HSA are perfectly happy to injure horses involved in the hunt. All animals are apparently not equal.

MisDescamisados · 05/08/2020 16:50

@Alicethroughtheblackmirror

Ugh. I hope not , the last thing we need is more of that toxic narcissism thrown in accelerant on the fire

Mammatino · 05/08/2020 13:54

Does anyone remember Hilda Ogden? “Woman. Stan. Woman”. They wouldn’t mess with her...Although She wouldn’t be caught dead in a Lush.

BaronessWrongCrowd · 05/08/2020 13:34

@GrimDamnFanjo

Trotted past the Manchester Arndale store today to see a big poster in the window - something about what Lush don't allow - racism and transphobia.
But they're perfectly happy with misogyny, the virtue signalling, thrush inducing numpties.
DialSquare · 05/08/2020 12:24

@Roseburn

I took a deep breath ( to try and avoid the fumes) and entered Lush last Christmas looking for bathbombs for presents, trying to find ones without glitter, but was struggling . ( who wants to get out of the bath looking like a caked Christmas Card?) I asked the sales assistant to point me in the direction of the non-glitter ones and she was bewildered - 'oh but glitter is very popular.'

I'll bet.

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Roseburn · 05/08/2020 12:08

I took a deep breath ( to try and avoid the fumes) and entered Lush last Christmas looking for bathbombs for presents, trying to find ones without glitter, but was struggling . ( who wants to get out of the bath looking like a caked Christmas Card?) I asked the sales assistant to point me in the direction of the non-glitter ones and she was bewildered - 'oh but glitter is very popular.'

I'll bet.

SunsetBeetch · 05/08/2020 12:01

@OneWomanOneDog

I'm not going to want to know this, but what did body shop do?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3934951-the-body-shop-has-fallen

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3939793-Reply-from-the-Body-Shop-re-JKR-just-so-dreadful

uniglowooljumper · 05/08/2020 11:56

Instead of spending money on Lush, pick up some great tshirts. I have the 'woman banned' one and the 'cancelled' one.

AvocadoBathroom · 05/08/2020 03:05

Nothing in Lush can't be found cheaper in other places now. So many other good skincare and natural shampoo brands on the market.

AvocadoBathroom · 05/08/2020 03:04

Lush bathbombs give me thrush. Another reason to not shop with them. The one they do called "Sex Bomb"? UTI party that is.

SerenityNowwwww · 05/08/2020 01:16

Because they hate women?

MissEliza · 05/08/2020 01:11

Very true @NiceGerbil so I'll have to find a way to explain to my dd (11) why we can't go there for expensive rubbish any more.

SerenityNowwwww · 05/08/2020 00:58

Didn’t you have a sharpie on your bag? Add ‘or women’ to the poster

GrimDamnFanjo · 05/08/2020 00:13

Trotted past the Manchester Arndale store today to see a big poster in the window - something about what Lush don't allow - racism and transphobia.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/08/2020 23:52

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I love that everyone calls it a "soap shop". I bet the marketing team wax lyrical endlessly about "brand purpose", but at the end of the day it is just a wanky soap shop that needs to get over itself.
It's a soap shop which many people have to cross the road or hold their breath to path because it's so overpowering. I'm wondering, do youngsters have a poorer sense of smell? Maybe we get sensitised to certain things, I really can't stand the emanations from lush shops.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/08/2020 23:15

I love that everyone calls it a "soap shop". I bet the marketing team wax lyrical endlessly about "brand purpose", but at the end of the day it is just a wanky soap shop that needs to get over itself.

MrsJamin · 04/08/2020 22:52

I hope someone followed your links before the post was taken down, @femaleandlearning. I always worry that the post will appear in friends' feeds as something I've interacted with (have a gazillion woke friends Hmm) so end up just liking comments and replies to comments as I don't think this appears in your friends' feeds. I know I need to be braver but I'd prefer to have conversations with friends in person about this stuff rather than online- otherwise it's a very public disagreement.