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Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

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Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 03/08/2020 19:55

Apparently some stickers found their way onto the Lush Edinburgh storefront causing horror and consternation on Princes St this morning. They are too awful to be shared, obviously, but clearly they carried some message of hateful bigotry - or biological fact as it used to be known.

Anyway, staff on the thread are letting it be known that anyone wearing a T-shirt carrying the dictionary definition of a woman would not be served - haven't seen a comment on what would happen if it said 'I ❤️ JKR'. Not sure how legal that is.

www.facebook.com/116815671689234/posts/3431297510241017/

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sparklefarts · 03/08/2020 22:22

@StillNotAGirl

Would they serve someone wearing a man definition tee-shirt I wonder?

And would it make a difference whether it was a man or a woman wearing said tee-shirt?

Hmm

I live in Edinburgh, I'm very tempted to get a 'Man definition' T-shirt and try it
fatblackcatspaw · 03/08/2020 22:22

this is about preventing bigots going to this Lush shop ...

fatblackcatspaw · 03/08/2020 22:21

oh I like this comment
'This is so brave of you but can I ask how you're enforcing it? I mean, I presume you'll have some sort of questionnaire to complete prior to entry but I have misgivings about the accuracy because a) most people go for the middle answer regardless; and b) some people lie. So I could end up being in a shop with someone I disagree with which is fundamentally unsafe for me.
The sign with the zeros (I get we don't all have enough O letters and I'm not judging) is a good first step but please back this up. Maybe contact Jeremy Kyle for one of his lie detectors - he doesn't need them any more. Or get a really sinister penguin asking the questions. (They're trans so that's ok - my son told me.)

Childrenofthestones · 03/08/2020 22:19

Strange isn't it. 100 years ago cervix owners would have been smashing their windows for that.

SerenityNowwwww · 03/08/2020 22:18

And - they are being very short sighted. Piss of the older customers (and young feminists). Hope that the trendy woken types will carry on being trendy woken types and buy a lot of their stuff.

Watch as the trendy woken types grow the hell up and realise what a crappy tribe they were in ;and reject the brand), or jump on the next coming bandwagon which may very well be proper feminism. Either way, someone will go bankrupt (again?).

SerenityNowwwww · 03/08/2020 22:14

I only used to but the bath stuff for DH (before he was dyed purple) and it was an ordeal because the staff were very irritating. Of course the Body Shop off the list too...

SummerTimeSunshine · 03/08/2020 22:13

Some of my friends/family were big fans of Lush and I’d buy their gifts from there. Not anymore after their ridiculous stance on women’s rights. Virtue signalling morons. They can feck right off.

I sincerely hope there is not enough people in the woke camp to keep the business afloat.

SerenityNowwwww · 03/08/2020 22:13

Lush really does honk and they turned DS purple at one stage. And as for the bloody glitter and crap in their bath bombs...

KarenKuruma · 03/08/2020 22:08

But obviously I can't enter lush anyway, even without my AHF T-shirt.

Cause I identify as an alpaca and they refuse to test on animals.

Justhadathought · 03/08/2020 22:08

The toxic smell coming out of lush is enough to put most off. i don't know how the staff can stand it.

But surely it is illegal to refuse to serve someone for such a reason?
Maybe there ought to be a concerted campaign just to highlight the nonsense? Make sure you wear a face mask too.....to prevent feelings of nausea and migraine.

fatblackcatspaw · 03/08/2020 22:08

oh marvellous I was goign to improve their storefront but was too tired after the meeting yesterday - are there any photos circulating?

And there of lots of women now leaving comments on facebuik saying Lush are bollocks.

I would like to reverse engineer Angels on Bare Skin if I could get my mits on clay it would be quite easy I think.

KarenKuruma · 03/08/2020 22:07

If lush don't know that (biological) male humans cannot become (biological, again, without saying) female humans, then I can conclude I am significantly more educated on the subject than them.

HTH lush. Do better huns.

Sexnotgender · 03/08/2020 22:07

@tobee

When, some months ago, I looked up who the CEO of Lush was, and I saw his photo, it all made sense.
Is there a beard?
MrsKeats · 03/08/2020 22:06

It's another business I've not been shopping with for a few years.
The bloody arrogance of them.

CountreeGurl · 03/08/2020 22:05

I think it is great to see a business standing up for what it believes in. If you don't like it don't shop there, simple.

ThatLibraryMiss · 03/08/2020 22:03

@StandUpStraight

The phrase “educate yourself” is rapidly becoming one of the nastiest in the English language. Putting “love and respect” after it does not mitigate its authoritarian arrogance either - it makes it worse. Who do they think they are to tell their customers to go educate themselves?!
"Educate yourself" is so patronising. It says, "Well, you're wrong, dear, but you don't know any different. When you learn a bit more you'll understand how silly you're being. It's not difficult; I'm sure you can do it if you try."
NiceGerbil · 03/08/2020 22:02

Point 2.

I have always found lush v pongy. And their stuff overpriced. And I have sensitive skin/ a bit of ezcema. And while I understand that hiding in the bathroom is a bit of peace for a lot of women, it's a poor substitute to actual time to yourself.

The sale of female grooming as pampering, relaxation is shit tbh but that's another thread.

Lush cater to femininity. So this stance is in line with their thinking.

GC women say that gender stereotypes are restrictive. Of course many of us conform to some of them. But generally, there should be more freedom.

Lush are all about sterotypes. That is what their product is for.

So, no surprise really.

Smallsteps88 · 03/08/2020 22:00

I was just pondering that @NiceGerbil. I bet a trans person wearing that wouldn’t be refused service.

NiceGerbil · 03/08/2020 21:57

Do does anyone based on Edinburgh have a male friend, family member, spouse etc

Who is prepared to put on some eyeliner/ and preferably a skirt or some glitter or something

And wear an adult human Female t-shirt, bag or something into the Edinburgh store?

My guess is they would NOT get questioned in any way whatsoever.

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TheChampagneGalop · 03/08/2020 21:56

sparkly thrush balls
GrinGrinGrin

Deliriumoftheendless · 03/08/2020 21:55

@CousinKrispy

Any recommendations for a good shampoo bar from another supplier? I'm happy to have an excuse to avoid Lush anyway.
I can’t vouch for them, as I make my own bath products, but my local eco shop stocks them and they have some lovely stuff.

www.peacewiththewild.co.uk/product-brands/bain-savon/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6575BRCQARIsAMp-ksM4ld1ok2jw8fNXcYjbl2JO7enDqc05Nh7RrGa2eYW6xPo2kawlV3oaAswjEALw_wcB#

Smallsteps88 · 03/08/2020 21:53

I wonder who buys most of their sickening sparkly thrush balls. Would it be..... women? 🤔 interesting stance to take in the face of an imminent recession.

Thisismytimetoshine · 03/08/2020 21:46

I've just had a brief scroll through the replies on that Facebook post.

Lot's of wide eyed "Gosh, what a nasty response to your fabulous sign, hope you guys are safe!" nonsense.
I wish I could believe they're taking the piss...
What is this safe shite, does the word mean something quite different now?!

TheChampagneGalop · 03/08/2020 21:45

Their FB header says "All are welcome. Always"
Unless you wear one of those woman t-shirts, that's just beyond the pale.

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