Lush Edinburgh say they wouldn't serve anyone in "woman" T-shirt

Their Instagram post has no negative comments... Yet ! Surely this has to be tested somehow, that'd they'd refuse to sell to someone in a AHF t shirt? Whoever it is, please film it!

I suspect it might be (yet another) corporate own goal. Telling the vast (>90%) of your customer base that defining themselves is offensive, seems short-sighted. Particularly when they publicise it so loudly. Their products are woefully over-priced in a crowded marketplace; be interesting to see how this plays out for them. In the current global crisis, people have less disposable income and it tends to be women who make household spending decisions ...

I’d also wonder about the future career of an employee who mistakes an organisation’s woke advertising as a business driver, rather than profit.

“The main target audience of Lush Cosmetics are working women between 18 and 45 years old. These women have a higher education and middle-high incomes.”
act201718.wordpress.com/2017/10/08/lush-cosmetics-customer-definition/

“All this is despite the fact that Lush’s Instagram followers are 89 percent female and 11 percent male (Instagram doesn’t have an option for users to identify as nonbinary), according to Lush. Lush wouldn’t give the gender breakdown of buyers; Halls said the majority are women, but men are a growing portion of them.”
digiday.com/marketing/lush-features-men-women-alike-marketing/

I wonder what would happen if DH would bravely volunteer to squeeze into my woman definition tee shirt and pass through the lush smog of sickliness....

If rejected he could claim transphobia because he's proudly identified as a woman as soon as he passes the threshold of woke stench...

It's a big ask - not the tee shirt just getting within 2 meters of the shop makes me sick and I'm amazed anyone can shop there.

Can someone link to the post and comments please?

@CousinKrispy I use Rush Organics (yes! rush not lush!) no SLS and they were really helpful and nice when I accidentally bought something containing nuts!

I don’t know how to link but HI / MM is being mean on Twitter about Keira B and her partner re this story.

Both my cousin and my son have eczema so I started making them lotion bars without the preservatives and other chemicals back in the 1970s. You would be surprised how easy it is to melt and pour them.

Oh sorry I misunderstood the tweets!

Go Rebekah!

Not at all a safe environment for anyone with a working sense of smell. (Or a brain)

Googling that name only has this:

medium.com/@notCursedE/transphobe-barred-from-macclesfield-pub-because-transphobia-sucks-8cd73ba3696a

It's quite an unusual name.

We have attracted minorities who have come to us as a refuge from prejudice, bullying or marginalisation. 🤣🤣🤣
There's me thinking thinking people just went in to buy a fecking bath bomb 🤷🏻‍♀️ Safe environment, my arse.

Anyone got a link to them being that specific?

Not a link as I don’t think it will take you to the specific comment so here are some screenshots of it.

I think I have them in the wrong order. First she asked “so to clarify...”

Then She posted a photo to show which t-shirt she meant, then lush said “yes” when she said “will I be refused entry wearing this t-shirt?”

Just been looking at their website

' Our ability to create a warm and welcoming home, a safe environment where difference is accepted and fostered, is maybe our single greatest strength. We have attracted minorities who have come to us as a refuge from prejudice, bullying or marginalisation. This wide and diverse group all find a place in the tapestry of Lush where we can forge a role that has personal value and meaning, whilst contributing to the whole.'

That's rather overblown for a soap company isn't it?

There also isn't much on what they are doing to help anything, aside from a bunch of words.

If anyone can point me to where they said they would not allow the definition of woman in the shop I'd be grateful.

I want to try this....if I can just find a way to tolerate the stench for a few minutes.

Wear the T shirt and when they refuse to serve me I shall become extremely offended because I self identify as a Woman and I wear the T shirt because it makes me feel proud and strong and it’s my way of Proclaiming and Owning my identity.

The fact that I am a woman is irrelevant because I can be whoever I choose to be and I choose to be a woman. How very dare they question my chosen identity.

'On their Facebook post they said they wouldn't serve a woman wearing a t-shirt that says Woman - noun - biological adult human female.'

The link in the op doesn't specify that, and I can't be bothered to read all the comments.

Anyone got a link to them being that specific?

Let's not derail the thread about the police thing. The question is, why is a soap company taking these political positions? With the body shop Anita roddick had a vision and a stance about animal exploitation etc in the products sold. Makes sense.

Why is a soap company wading into what the police did in a long standing undercover operation? Why are they diving into identity politics?

My guess is that they think it will appeal to their core customers.

But it's mindless wokism. What in their business model etc does anything tangible about these things?

CousinKrispy
Any recommendations for a good shampoo bar from another supplier? I'm happy to have an excuse to avoid Lush anyway.

I use bomb cosmetics for shampoo bars, and they also do solid deodorant I think. When Lush had their police campaign, bomb cosmetics produced a bath bomb the profits from which went to police charities.

What does that have to do with stinky soap?

State sanctioned rape by deception . There's no such thing as rape by deception.

"they lost me at the police campaign"

Because you think that it is totally fine for undercover cops to have CHILDREN with women they have deceived into fake long term relationships, in order to get information on some environmental activists?

Interesting brand of feminism you have there, given that the police spies only did this abusive shit to women. No men got to experience the joys of state sanctioned rape by deception. But nothing misogynistic was going on there at all. No siree

How big is the trans market to them anyway ? - there can only be a limited amount of fantasy girly self care bath bomb sessions to cater for. The rest of their market is 10 year old girls, going by the one I passed today and pocket money isn’t limitless.

That's fine with me. I cant go within a metre if a Lush shop without getting a blinding headache so no concern here.

I think that no shop has to serve a customer, but that's okay with me because I won't be buying any more of their expensive products.
The problem Lush has is the same one as Body Shop, in that they don't sell anything unique or that a customer really needs. There are plenty of alternative products on the market which will fulfill requirements. Thus Lush (and BS) should be careful not to alienate customers. Particularly during a pandemic, when retail is on its arse.

an ASBO against the smell.

Absolutely love it. I'd join for a class action against them polluting the high street with their noxious fumes.