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Any academics: how do I tackle research re sex/gender

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ahumanfemale · 01/08/2020 19:02

Previously research would ask questions like:
Are you:

  1. Male
  2. Female

And that would be it.

Now it's more like a variation on the theme of:
What is your gender?

  1. Man
  2. Woman
  3. Trans man
  4. Trans woman
  5. Other not listed.

Does anybody know of how to sidestep this? I would just like to ask what is your sex, but I don't think I will be able to do that.

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Portnlemon · 02/08/2020 11:42

"I am a woman; this is different from my sex when I was born" rather than acknowledging that "I was born a boy".

Why just when they were born? If it is so enormously important to record that someone has changed sex then surely the timing is relevant? When forms ask your address they don't ask if you've moved since birth do they, they want the date.

Portnlemon · 02/08/2020 11:38

We all know what birth sex is, it's an understood term.

Do we? Is it? If I said to my DM what's your birth sex she wouldn't have a clue what I meant. She would say "eh?"

So is she disingenuous or just oblivious to identity politics?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 02/08/2020 11:18

Are you asking what sex I was when I gave birth?

My guess is 'female', but even that is up for grabs these days! Hmm

BwanaMakubwa · 02/08/2020 10:56

Portnlemon

Don't be disingenuous. We all know what birth sex is, it's an understood term.

My thinking is, it is much harder for a transperson to tick a box that says I was biologically born male (for example) than to tick a box which acknowledges their lived reality and that this is not their birth sex.

I think it is very different in terms of dignity and therefore likely accuracy of reporting to have a question acknowledging "I am a woman; this is different from my sex when I was born" rather than acknowledging that "I was born a boy".

Thislittlelady · 02/08/2020 10:45

Were you biologically born male/man female/ woman.

Portnlemon · 02/08/2020 10:42

@BwanaMakubwa

I am a man / woman (please indicate) Is this your birth sex? Yes/no

Would that work?

Are you asking what sex I was when I gave birth?
BwanaMakubwa · 02/08/2020 10:27

I am a man / woman (please indicate)
Is this your birth sex? Yes/no

Would that work?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 02/08/2020 10:22

I often tick 'other' and there is an explanation box. I write 'adult human female, otherwise known as 'woman' and oppressed as such'.

Carriemac · 02/08/2020 10:20

If you join the NHS vaccine registery, they ask the questions very clearly - what biological six were you registered at birth then what gender do you identify with
It's worth registering just to see wording and then 'why we need to ask'
I used it when editing a workplace questionnaire recently and said 'as per NHS definition'

fascinated · 02/08/2020 10:02

@Miriel

I filled out one recently that asked 'what is your sex?' with male and female as the options, and then something to the effect of 'do you have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment?' with yes, no, or prefer not to say. I was very impressed by that, and ethics panels can't argue with the Equality Act.

I'm not doing empirical research myself at the moment, but I know that my heart sinks every time I see survey questions asking for 'gender' or 'gender identity', usually with a long list of options. It's so common in social science especially.

Legally they cannot touch you on this
CatandtheFiddle · 02/08/2020 09:59

OP you might look at Alice Sullivan's work (you can find her on Twitter) about the importance of retaining Sex as a category - she's arguing for this for the next Census, and getting shit piled on her from on high.

But her work is excellent.

CatandtheFiddle · 02/08/2020 09:57

I think you could ask for sex ie Male /Female

Then, if you wanted, you could ask about 'gender identity'

"Is your gender identity the same as the sex you were observed at birth?"
and give the following possibilities:

Yes
No
I do not have a gender identity

RaininSummer · 02/08/2020 00:36

I fill in surveys online quite often and if the question is a gender one, I always tick 'other' and write 'my sex is female' in the box.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/08/2020 00:05

If you are instructed to have a gender question please can you at least make it optional so people like me who refuse to play the gender game don't get excluded from research because we can't skip the question.

This. Otherwise we're obviously going to nope out of it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/08/2020 00:03

That is a very good idea. You could have an explanation that you are looking at protected characteristics and link to the EA.

Yes, do this.

Miriel · 02/08/2020 00:01

I filled out one recently that asked 'what is your sex?' with male and female as the options, and then something to the effect of 'do you have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment?' with yes, no, or prefer not to say. I was very impressed by that, and ethics panels can't argue with the Equality Act.

I'm not doing empirical research myself at the moment, but I know that my heart sinks every time I see survey questions asking for 'gender' or 'gender identity', usually with a long list of options. It's so common in social science especially.

CriticalCondition · 01/08/2020 23:54

How about sex recorded at birth?
Nicely neutral.

And then an optional question on gender with a free text box.

Cascade220 · 01/08/2020 23:03

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ButterflyWitch · 01/08/2020 22:48

I think you need to be clear on sex v gender. Perhaps ask for both?
Sex - female/male
Gender - woman/man/trans/other (specify) ?

Cascade220 · 01/08/2020 22:43

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ahumanfemale · 01/08/2020 22:19

Thank you for the responses. They're very helpful.

I've actually been stressing a huge amount about this question. More so, actually, than whether my research question will get approved - because that I can go back and forwards on without wondering if I'm going to be discriminated against for being a "bigot" (obviously I could always appeal/formally complain if I thought I was discriminated against, but I've got other things I need to be doing with my time this year!).

I'm not going to post my research question or faculty because my research will be online under my real name. It's a faculty where I've not seen a single student's research ask for sex for the last couple of years (not that I've seen every project, but I have clicked on all the ones I've seen). I also don't complete them if they insist my material reality is an identity choice. And I also dislike it when they ask at the end. That really annoyed me.

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Anotheronetwo · 01/08/2020 22:15

I go with sex, then female/male/prefer not to say.

Aesopfable · 01/08/2020 22:06

Are you a prostrate-haver?

Yes
No

IAintentDead · 01/08/2020 21:49

otherwise it is pointless asking the question

it should just come down to 'Are you human?'

IAintentDead · 01/08/2020 21:48

Gronky Sat 01-Aug-20 19:12:34
You could ask for 'sex assigned at birth' and 'gender identity' if you're really concerned about treading carefully.

I am a woman. I don't have a gender identity. I am a woman
I wasn't assigned female at birth. I was observed female at birth.

A survey I was interested in (and who, from it's premise I think was interested in answers from people like me) asked which gender I identified as. I didn't bother with the survey. I am not interested in false statistics gained from asking irrelevant questions like that.

The second was one I am very interested in, this didn't ask the question until the end. It did, however, give the option 'other' which is what I opted for as I wasn't assigned a sex at birth. Despite my interest if this question had been asked at the beginning I would not have completed it.

I don't want statistics skewed by people identifying as the opposite sex. Options should be biological or on original birth certificate. This can be further divided/clarified beyond this if necessary but the first division should be biological.

I am not interested in any survey which div