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Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP

656 replies

Kit19 · 01/08/2020 15:50

has had to lock down her Twitter account after being inundated with hate for saying women have cervix’s

The TRA are now spamming labour with complaints about her transphobia & demands she is sacked

I’m planning to email my support fir her copying in Keir Starmer

(And yes of course LOJ is involved!)

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aliasundercover · 01/08/2020 20:43

They seem to have moved from transwomen are women #nodebate to women aren't women #nodebate

Yeah, they keep getting dafter. Only transwomen are women, actual women are ‘cervix haters’.
I am beginning to wonder if there are secret feminists encouraging them to spout this obvious rubbish to show just how ridiculous TRAs truly are

Portnlemon · 01/08/2020 20:41

I am your lordship, I am an honest transphobe your honour.

Doffs cap.

Siablue · 01/08/2020 20:40

Am I to take from this that she liked a tweet and people made up some fake tweets with ridiculous comments after that.

nauticant · 01/08/2020 20:37

"Are you now, or have you ever been, or will you ever be, a transphobe?"

Portnlemon · 01/08/2020 20:31

The Scotsman! What a ridiculous gossip rag!

Why anyone has to deny being transphobic I don't know. The whole world is transphobic, the word applies to everyonw and everything, all the time, get over it!

ThePurported · 01/08/2020 20:27

Oh dear, Scotsman.

FloralBunting · 01/08/2020 20:25

Oh, and YY, the TRAs I've seen online in recent days have seemed increasingly frantic and angry, and very much on the back foot. None of this kind of thing helps their cause, plus the BBC and the NHS changing their advice about gender dysphoria, especially in regards to 'treatments' for under 18s, has got them proper spooked. Unlike the rational people who see caution and wisdom as positive things in untested and likely permanent experimental medical practice, and think it's important to use clear language if you want to be 'inclusive'.

FloralBunting · 01/08/2020 20:20

I'm quite amused that she deleted a tweet praising Whittome as someone who is calling for mature nuanced debate, and not another eager proponent of the new stasi.

Bit her on the arse, somewhat, I would say.

Portnlemon · 01/08/2020 20:18

There really is a visible escalation since press reports of the GRA consultation outcome.

Furious ranting at the labour leadership is completely ineffective as they won't make any difference to the plans.

All that's happening is a demonstration of how seriously nasty the supposedly "inclusive" approach is. They can rant till they are hoarse, no one cares what they have to say anymore, now we've heard how selfish and ridiculous it is.

ThePurported · 01/08/2020 20:17

It's one thing to nod along with TWAW especially if you aren't at all interested in the detail but I think the increasing claims that women don't exist at all is not one that people can stomach smiling and nodding at.

I do have some sympathy for MPs who have bleated TWAW without giving it much thought, but these attempts to bin the word woman in certain contexts are happening precisely because enough people agreed that anyone can be a woman and it's "nothing to do with biology". What did they expect?

BatShite · 01/08/2020 20:14

The fake tweet, how fucking desperate these males are to discredit women who believe women are a real thing. Its pathetic, it really is.

nauticant · 01/08/2020 20:02

Of course, that libellous accusation will be deleted, so here's the archived version:

archive.fo/wip/HHF1N

nauticant · 01/08/2020 19:58

They've fucked up with the fake tweet:

twitter.com/TheProleStar/status/1289563548192972806

They forgot there's a website that logs tweets deleted by MPs:

politwoops.co.uk/p/ukmps/RosieDuffield1

Violetparis · 01/08/2020 19:46

Bent just seen a tweet by the Labour MP Neil Coyle supporting Rosie Duffield.

OvaHere · 01/08/2020 19:41

They seem to have moved from transwomen are women #nodebate to women aren't women #nodebate.

This is likely why a lot more people are paying attention. It's one thing to nod along with TWAW especially if you aren't at all interested in the detail but I think the increasing claims that women don't exist at all is not one that people can stomach smiling and nodding at.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/08/2020 19:41

I have emailed Starmer asking him to get off the fence and in support. If she didn’t say it, it doesn’t matter. Very confused now....

nauticant · 01/08/2020 19:34

It feels like the TRAs have overreached. It's quite likely I'm wrong but this carry on isn't supposed to take place in front of the public and is not supposed to be associated with the behind the scenes lobbying that's traditionally got the changes they've pushed for.

Datun · 01/08/2020 19:31

Let's be honest - this is nothing to do with excluding transmen from and everything to do with ensuring the word women doesn't exclude men.

Exactly.

A couple of thousand of actual women have never been able to change the entire political landscape, as everyone bloody knows.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 01/08/2020 19:29

Bent I think you are right the “i” is different in the @ of the fake one

I have emailed Duffield & cc’d Starmer

Xanthangum · 01/08/2020 19:26

I can see your posts @Bent

Its just weird that she hasn't clarified which. Perhaps its deliberate obfuscation...

megletthesecond · 01/08/2020 19:26

I have better things to do than emailing Starmer in support of Duffield this evening but I'm going to have to do it aren't I.

This is getting stupid now.

CeciledeVolanges · 01/08/2020 19:25

It does look quite obviously fake, doesn’t it?

Thank you, @wellbehavedwomen. Interestingly I follow a man on twitter who has tweeted something quite close to the sentiments of JK Rowling and he also pointed out that he could say it without getting a pile-on. It’s quite startling.

wellbehavedwomen · 01/08/2020 19:24

The original crime, apparently, was to like a tweet saying that women have cervixes. That was all she did.

The fake tweets to try to justify the homicidal levels of rage are normal for this lot. They did it to JKR, Glinner, Maya Forstater. It's interesting, because it's a tacit admission that there really wasn't enough there to begin with. If you have to lie to be able to defend your position, your position is clearly indefensible.

RoBollox · 01/08/2020 19:19

Fed up. Twitter should just be switched off.