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Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP

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Kit19 · 01/08/2020 15:50

has had to lock down her Twitter account after being inundated with hate for saying women have cervix’s

The TRA are now spamming labour with complaints about her transphobia & demands she is sacked

I’m planning to email my support fir her copying in Keir Starmer

(And yes of course LOJ is involved!)

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Binterested · 02/08/2020 15:22

JP does not think TWAW. No one does. They have just lost touch with their own integrity for fear of the mob/Momentum/MRAs.

Justhadathought · 02/08/2020 15:10

Jess Phillips calls it " twitter noise". She ought to know the reason it has got so "noisy" on this issue is because there has been no truly open debate nor truly open public consultation.Twitter is a totally inadequate medium for political debate, but social media is merely reflecting the growth of awareness of this issue.

KingFredsTache · 02/08/2020 14:56

Well yes, JP is saying the bare minimum. She obviously disagrees with Rosie on this point, as is her right, disappointing as that is, she thinks that TWAW. But she doesn't think that Rosie should be coming in for abuse on Twitter and she has said so. And she is open to debate on GRA reform, even though she apparently supports it.

SheWhoMustNotBeHeard · 02/08/2020 14:52

@Floisme

That's speaking up in support? Here's my idea of what support would look like: 'Of course only women have a Cervix.'

Absolutely.

This is another non-apology. This is trying to appease both sides without actually saying anything.

ThePurported · 02/08/2020 14:48

hateful use of the word *cervix
I seem to have been brainwashed, I meant to say 'woman'.

Agree that JP is just saying the bare minimum.

NiceGerbil · 02/08/2020 14:42

Agree.

Floisme · 02/08/2020 14:38

That's speaking up in support?
Here's my idea of what support would look like: 'Of course only women have a Cervix.'

NiceGerbil · 02/08/2020 14:18

In that interview she says she wants to press ahead with the reform of GRA and that the noise on Twitter is holding up trans rights.

KingFredsTache · 02/08/2020 14:14

Jess Philips has spoken in support of Rosie - she, quite rightly, says that twitter isn't the place for this kind of discourse.

labourlist.org/2020/08/i-dont-think-rosie-duffield-is-a-transphobe-says-jess-phillips/

StrangeLookingParasite · 02/08/2020 13:55

@ScrimpshawTheSecond

thehumanformerlyknownasfemale Thanks, yes, I think it was the Labour MP that had accused JKR as 'leveraging her trauma' and then stepped down from the front bench. I forget his name.
Gusset-Boil, or something like that?
ScrimpshawTheSecond · 02/08/2020 13:47

@Violetparis

The lack of support for Rosie Duffield from other Labour MPs (apart from Neil Coyle) is shameful.
This. Uttery, horribly bloody shameful.
ThePurported · 02/08/2020 13:30

Jess Phillips is probably busy arranging another interview with Prick News so she can apologise for her past ignorance and hateful use of the word cervix.

ThePurported · 02/08/2020 13:19

I doubt they're planning anything, but Harman especially should know better. She knows what happens when you allow a toxic movement to colonise certain wings of the party.

Or do they and Starmer actually believe that gender identity ideology represents progress and something that young and left-leaning voters really want?

Violetparis · 02/08/2020 13:12

Also where is Jess Phillips, the one with the book out called 'Truth to Power' with the words 'How to call time on bullshit, speak up and make a difference' on the cover ?

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 02/08/2020 13:11

thehumanformerlyknownasfemale Thanks, yes, I think it was the Labour MP that had accused JKR as 'leveraging her trauma' and then stepped down from the front bench. I forget his name.

Binterested · 02/08/2020 13:04

The lack of support for Rosie Duffield from other Labour MPs (apart from Neil Coyle) is shameful

It is. And where are the senior Labour women? Yvette Cooper? Karen Buck? Harriet Harman? They all know damn well what’s going on. I just hope they are planning something behind the scenes - to do a mass outing of themselves.

NotTerfNorCis · 02/08/2020 12:56

No problem calling prostrate-havers men. Where is the outrage from TRAs?

Today’s witch burning - Rosie Duffield MP
Violetparis · 02/08/2020 12:33

The lack of support for Rosie Duffield from other Labour MPs (apart from Neil Coyle) is shameful.

Winesalot · 02/08/2020 12:24

Susanna Rustin is supporting Rosie Duffield this morning on twitter.

twitter.com/susannarustin/status/1289867282471170048?s=21

I wonder if there’ll be another letter from afronted activist guardian staff?

MouseandCat · 02/08/2020 12:21

I have written to Rosie Duffield to thank her and to Keir Starmer to say it is a disgrace if he doesn't support her. Publicly.

TheRealMcKenna · 02/08/2020 12:19

Hasn’t Owen Jones just released a book pondering why Labour got so trounced in the last election?

I can summarise it for you if you like.

Labour lost because the nasty right-wing media, Russia and an Evil Genius or three convinced the British public to vote for Brexit. Labour couldn’t convince people that they’d got it wrong. The strategy of calling people racist, xenophobic, selfish, thick, uneducated, gammon, brainwashed and wishing people a horrible death on Twitter for 3 years straight turned out not to be a winning forumula.

Siameasy · 02/08/2020 11:54

It’s so disappointing but it feels like we must go through this to get sunlight on this issue. The more ridiculous the TRAs become the more exposed this whole idiocy becomes

andyoldlabour · 02/08/2020 11:19

There is a lot of kickback on this twitter thread, plus the "usual suspects".

twitter.com/CaoimheHaleLab/status/1289521361728176128

Scout2016 · 02/08/2020 11:02

And what a disappointment Owen Jones has become.

Scout2016 · 02/08/2020 11:01

Thank you for bringing this to my attention OP. It has been a final straw for me. I have emailed Keir Starmer too and basically asked him to stand up for women, ensure there is some debate and research and stop the Labour party being complicit in allowing the bullies to silence women. Also that young people are being put at risk by not having their mental health examined pre-transition...I quit my membership over their unquestioning GR Act stance and Lily Madigan. I was hoping things would improve.