"Women's" Cricket; Kent CC squad including a man

[quote Winesalot]Not sure if this has been mentioned but there is a TW joining a professional women’s football team too. They are waiting for the FA to confirm based on testosterone levels. Surely, all contact sports need to address the findings of rugby or they will be open to lawsuits. Or are lawsuits for injury (future medical expenses such as dementia with head injuries for example) the only way they will change? That would be reprehensible.

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Oh ffs. I have a season ticket for a WSL team (not Bristol) so no doubt I'll be watching this player against my team next season.

I have no hope that the rugby report will change anything. It feels as though rugby had an advantage in that respect because it's such a high contact sport. Injury and fear of litigation might just have been the push they needed that women's entitlement to fairplay wouldn't be

Incidentally, I read that the WSL players under 18 have to use a different changing room to the over-18s for safeguarding reasons. I presume that won't be the case for male players though.

It is very clear that whatever undiagnosed-but-completely-verified-by-doctors "intersex" condition Maxine has decided Maxine has does not make them female. Otherwise Maxine would not be so far ahead of all the other female cricket players, and playing with mediocre men.

There is a US organisation that I follow: savewomenssports.com which has a really useful list of organisations to write to in the US and internationally to complain about men's inclusion in women's sports.

It also has a good letter which could be adapted to send to national sports organisations in the UK. If we don't speak up now, there will be many more mediocre men taking places that rightfully belong to women on sports teams

TW are awfully good at sport aren't they? Has anyone seen reports of TM joining men's competitions? I think the TM just aren't trying hard enough.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but there is a TW joining a professional women’s football team too. They are waiting for the FA to confirm based on testosterone levels. Surely, all contact sports need to address the findings of rugby or they will be open to lawsuits. Or are lawsuits for injury (future medical expenses such as dementia with head injuries for example) the only way they will change? That would be reprehensible.

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If I said what I really thought about Blythin it would not end well... and I've had a glass of wine so probably wouldn't manage to be suitably diplomatic and guarded in my language.

Suffice it to say I do not believe there is any way of spinning this situation in which what Blythin is doing can be seen as fair or sporting.

And Kent CCC should be ashamed of themselves.

Kantastic Thank you for that very interesting link from mrkhvoice.

I certainly agree with what you say that the unspecified condition means that suddenly anyone questioning it looks like a big meanie. And that may be enough to stop a journalist bothering to run the story.

Maxine is just following the rules. However, at the end of the day, it's an xy person playing in women's sport!

twitter.com/newsreader_190/status/1289454355913965568?s=21

Happy a man is putting pressure on Kent but more women reaching out in a measured way would be fab.

Women on the opposing teams should refuse to play against that team that has an unfair advantage.

Maxine is not intersex. From that Sky article, all that can be gleaned is that Maxine has issues with delayed male puberty with low testosterone of which there are many causes. None of them make Maxine anything other than male. It’s concerning that Maxine hasn’t had this investigated given the potential diagnoses. But this in no way qualifies Maxine to play women’s sport.

Part-time transing with benefits? How can something like this be based on nothing but what someone says, especially as this transgender woman refuses to relinquish male privilege.

An experienced black female politician lost to emilia or whatever the name was. A truly unpleasant entitled brat who loves this because he hates women.

Here are two articles, written by intersex activists, about the longstanding and surprisingly common practice of trans people (mostly transwomen) lying about being intersex. Seemed relevant.

brujulaintersexual.org/2018/03/27/intersex-is-not-equal-trans-hana/
mrkhvoice.com/index.php/2019/08/01/why-do-trans-activists-claim-to-be-intersex/

Good move from Maxine though. A 6'4 male playing women's sports isn't a sympathetic figure to anyone other than the most egregious of misogynists. Add in an unspecified "condition" that doctors have verified but not diagnosed, or whatever it was, and suddenly anyone questioning it looks like a big meanie.

"That condition means I'm eligible to play women's sport at any level, in any sport, naturally," she says.

But how can they say that when they apparently don't even know what "condition" they have? And they'd be wrong anyway. If they really do have a disorder of sexual development then that wouldn't make them a woman or entitled to play sports as a woman. All it would mean is that they were a male with a disorder of sexual development. I'm so sick of people misrepresenting what DSDs are and using them as a shield for their entitled behaviour when it's obvious they don't have the first fucking clue about the matter.

Cases like this are clearly discriminating against women in their own sports. Legally, is there a challenge here?

Nothing to see here.

Oh I’ve seen that one before... Christ almighty, the US elections and I hope they both lose.

That I believe was a new rule to gender balance things like Boardrooms. They snuck in a bit around you could say you are a woman, not have to present as one (eh?), live as one (wtf?) - just self ID and no one was allowed to actually ask ‘so on what basis are you a woman?’.

Job done eh? Quicker and easier than getting pesky women into positions of influence and power (and let’s not forget the sex pay gap).

I’m sure they actually got the idea from Private Eye.

This is the link from last time this was discussed
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3735175-Maxine-Blythin-2019-Kent-Woman-Player-of-the-Year

Just looked up Pips Bunce. You couldn’t make it up.