Feminization surgery

lionheart · 2020-07-29T02:22:23+00:00

[[https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexverman/acial-feminization-surgery-medical-transition]] 'To make something like FFS truly accessible — and to give trans people true agency over it — requires completely reimagining the capitalist medical system.'

heartshapedcloud · 31/07/2020 05:22

Oh have just seen this isn't regarding NHS but still, I'm sure there are priorities similar overseas before they get down the list to facial cosmetic surgery!

heartshapedcloud · 31/07/2020 05:21

Er, I got told I likely can't even get repair for a vaginal tear that didn't heal correctly on the NHS. I know several women in a similar boat with pelvic or other issues relating to childbirth that they are not getting help with, plus many other people waiting for various treatments. I think that says it all for my opinion on this

AnyOldPrion · 31/07/2020 04:51

Among many of them, it is considered a matter of life or death,

The US medical system has a lot to answer for. This is them pushing a medical treatment and using threatened suicide as a lever for all kinds of cosmetic surgery.

And of course, this is probably why nobody anywhere is doing genuine, long-term, thorough follow up studies, with different cohorts to examine whether all this treatment is genuinely helping or not.

If it was proven that these patients did equally well with CBT, the whole gravy train (and, I suspect, the hero complexes of some of the medics) would draw to a halt.

Durgasarrow · 31/07/2020 02:17

What could be more reasonable than to ask for other people to provide a trans lady $50,000 for cosmetic surgery on her face (alone) during a pandemic? As the article says, "Trans people have no shortage of wants." If trans people have wants, is it not our duty to fulfill them?

Wishingstarr · 31/07/2020 01:54

Apparently my POV got deleted so there you have it: wealthy white men get what they want and to hell with everyone else.

Coyoacan · 29/07/2020 20:06

Now that body dysphoria is not classified as a mental health problem, how do they manage to get insurance companies to pay for these treatments?

testing987654321 · 29/07/2020 18:34

My hair is actually really annoying me, but can be dealt with by putting it in a bunch/clips. Not particularly attractive but that's not essential.

OneEpisode · 29/07/2020 18:10

Douglas Adams obviously had low maintenance hair. I’ve not been bothered by missing my haircuts during CV, but it seems others have!

I’m awaiting medical treatment, and I have had umpteen phone calls and video calls. I finally get a blood test in person tomorrow.

Priorities.

testing987654321 · 29/07/2020 16:37

In our newly adapted coronavirus vocabulary, categories like “essential” or “elective” (whether as work, services, procedures, or excursions) are political and fraught. In many cases, the designation “essential” is a marker of being undervalued and underprotecteded, as in the case of food workersrs. The label is both a blessing and a curse, given at the will of the capitalist state.

This person thinks that operations to change the way you look are "essential" and it's the capitalist system which sets these labels arbitrarily.

I would love to show them that bit in hitchhiker's guide where they find the group of hairdressers and estate agents, put in the "other" ship of essential workers.

Original poster

lionheart · 29/07/2020 12:34

OP posts:

Original poster

lionheart · 29/07/2020 11:22

I haven't has any surgery but thanks for the good wishes...

OP posts:

Aesopfable · 29/07/2020 11:03

“If this institution doesn’t do exactly what white men want, then it needs to change.”

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 29/07/2020 09:38

@Ihaventgottimeforthis

But this article isn't talking about the NHS, it's generally referring to healthcare in the US and Canada.

And to be honest, overthrowing that capitalist medical system would be a great thing, so if they can do it, it would help an awful lot of people.

Oh very sorry

Ignore me...

Im going to ask for the post to be deleted

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 29/07/2020 09:37

But this article isn't talking about the NHS, it's generally referring to healthcare in the US and Canada.

And to be honest, overthrowing that capitalist medical system would be a great thing, so if they can do it, it would help an awful lot of people.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 29/07/2020 09:34

FFS

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 29/07/2020 09:24

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RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 29/07/2020 09:22

@Melroses

“If the system we have in place has failed to serve even me—a white, feminine trans woman who’s into men, the very individual these institutions were built for—then who is it even serving?” Walker writes, adding: “Why shouldn’t it be replaced with something new and better?”

What now 😳

NewNewt · 29/07/2020 08:01

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NonnyMouse1337 · 29/07/2020 08:01

@Melroses

“If the system we have in place has failed to serve even me—a white, feminine trans woman who’s into men, the very individual these institutions were built for—then who is it even serving?” Walker writes, adding: “Why shouldn’t it be replaced with something new and better?”

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Melroses · 29/07/2020 07:57

What can you say?

Melroses · 29/07/2020 07:56

“If the system we have in place has failed to serve even me—a white, feminine trans woman who’s into men, the very individual these institutions were built for—then who is it even serving?” Walker writes, adding: “Why shouldn’t it be replaced with something new and better?”

PumbaasCucumbas · 29/07/2020 07:41

(That was to the article not to anyone here btw )

PumbaasCucumbas · 29/07/2020 07:39

This reads like a parody... giving your nose ‘oomph’ on par with delayed cancer treatment.

The article explains that some people travel for cheaper treatment and crowdfund to pay for it. Problem solved then.

My friend had to do this for life saving stem cell treatment for rapidly progressive MS. Just grow up.

bishopgiggles · 29/07/2020 07:36

Looking in the mirror and knowing you don't look feminine enough is, in my opinion, a truly female experience.

nepeta · 29/07/2020 07:33

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

I hope you make a full recovery, Lionheart. Shame you have to pay for essential care, but I’m glad you got it.

Too bad there’s no cure for narcissism ...

Ditto, #Lionheart# Most of trans activism I have seen online shows zero empathy toward anyone else, and also obviously zero willingness to compromise on any of their demands.