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It gets worse - a new, fresh hell

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WootMoggie · 28/07/2020 07:17

Medical paper in which it is argued that non-binary children should be given puberty blockers FOR LIFE
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"In this article, we analyse the novel case of Phoenix, a non-binary adult requesting ongoing puberty suppression (OPS) to permanently prevent the development of secondary sex characteristics, as a way of affirming their gender identity. We argue that (1) the aim of OPS is consistent with the proper goals of medicine to promote well-being, and therefore could ethically be offered to non-binary adults in principle;"

"Phoenix, 18, was assigned female at birth but has identified as gender non-binary (not entirely/exclusively male or female) since age 5."
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  • and so it begins.

Lord help us keep these clinicians away from our families. Puberty is a scary thing, but this line of thinking is essentially redefining it as optional.

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2020/07/24/medethics-2019-106012

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testing987654321 · 28/07/2020 07:49

Phoenix wants to stay on puberty blockers their whole life.

Phoenix’s new doctor ... wonders if Phoenix has underlying psychological issues about not wanting to grow up.

Phoenix has regular counselling with the psychologist, who judges that Phoenix’s distress is significant and enduring, and is not a symptom of an underlying psychopathology.

I would love to know what an "underlying psychopathology" is if having such severe distress at the thought of your body's natural development you want to remain pre-puberty your whole life isn't it.

LittleCabbage · 28/07/2020 07:42

Possible side effects of puberty blockers are really skimmed over. Infertility and loss of bone density are mentioned briefly but I didn't see effects on brain/intelligence mentioned.

Have googled the main author and can't decide if they appear trans or not. Thoughts?

law.unimelb.edu.au/about/staff/lauren-notini

Clymene · 28/07/2020 07:30

Keeping women in a permanently prepubescent state, what on earth could be wrong with that? ConfusedHmm

NonnyMouse1337 · 28/07/2020 07:29

Is this based on a real person, or is this paper an exercise in 'ethics'?

In this paper, we identify and analyse the key ethical issues relevant to Phoenix’s case, a hypothetical yet realistic case based on clinical experience.

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WootMoggie · 28/07/2020 07:24

I can honestly say this stuff is no longer "merely' enraging me - it's having a seriously detrimental effect. I feel like bringing up my children is a race against time whilst the walls are closing in around us.

The solidity of the common-sense, robust democratic worldview that my reality is based on, seems to be melting like snow.

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ContentiousOne · 28/07/2020 07:19

It's unbearable, isn't it?

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