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2nd DD saying she is trans - I have also posted in LGBT children

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SupportPlease · 28/07/2020 00:53

I know this thread may be removed but I need some advice or an idea of where to get support, I have NC.

My DD1 (18) self identified as male about 2 years ago and last year changed her name by deedpoll. I probably haven't supported her/him as I should as I believe these gender identity issues are austism/anxiety related - there have been numerous attempts to get support through CAMHs and a diagnosis but after about 4 years we are still nowhere near and haven't seen anyone from adult MHS despite being referred to them when DD turned 18 in February.

We moved house in January and she now shares a room with 13 year DD2, first time they have ever had to share. Now, 6 months later DD2 has told me she is also trans - she says she hasn't always felt like this and might not always feel like it but wants to change her name. I do think there has been indoctrination by older DD who has social issues and spends about 18 hours a day talking to god knows who online.
I just don't know what to do, I feel like I'm walking on eggshells constantly with DD1 but DD2 has always been a very kind, easy going person and she has changed a bit since lockdown began. I can't separate them as this would not only be obvious but there is no other space for one of them to have, hence why they share. Any advice or signposting to support sites would be really helpful right now.

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ChattyLion · 28/07/2020 08:42

Flowers here have some actual flowers Flowers

ChattyLion · 28/07/2020 08:41

Nothing helpful to add but flowers] OP. Wishing you well.

Aesopfable · 28/07/2020 08:30

strawberrrymilkshakemonkey what reasons do you see that means two children of different genders cannot share a room but two children of different sexes can? Apart from their ages, what about ‘identifying as a male’ makes it inappropriate? Clothes? Short hair?

BaronessBollyKnickers · 28/07/2020 08:24

... to dismiss it as 'autism' is offensive and hurtful...

To you?

strawberrymilkshakemonkey · 28/07/2020 08:13

i honestly cant believe how little respect you appear to have for your older child. He is self identifying as male, and has been for some time. to dismiss it as 'autism' is offensive and hurtful. And, given the self identification (but even two females of those ages would be dubious), your two children should NOT be sharing a bedroom. if you have a small house, give them each their own room - they need privacy and have different things going on at that age - and set up your bedroom in the living room. definitely not appropriate.

Clymene · 28/07/2020 07:37

I would move your younger daughter in with you. She shouldn't share with her sibling.

ContentiousOne · 28/07/2020 07:16

I had siblings in my family diagnosed with GD. It's socially contagious, plus risk factors are often shared by sibs.

I just don't discuss it anymore. Adults can do as they please. Minors in my care get psychological support, support to be gender non-conforming if they wish, a non-homophobic family environment and a hard line re no social, hormonal or surgical transition until independent adulthood.

Best of luck. It's difficult.

rogdmum · 28/07/2020 06:17

I posted on your other thread to ditto the suggestion of contacting Bayswater Support Group (www.bayswatersupport.org.uk/ or @BayswaterSG on Twitter) or Our Duty (@OurDutyGrp on Twitter or www.facebook.com/ourdutygrp )

Gingerkittykat · 28/07/2020 01:36

This must be so difficult, especially when she will have the influence of older sibling and friends.

Do any of her school friends or real life peers identify as trans? Is the younger also autistic?

I've got no advice I'm afraid, my DD identified as non-binary for a while till she left the college class where there was a group of 6 of them who all identified like that but obviously you can't remove your younger child from the older one.

Isadora2007 · 28/07/2020 01:00

Tbh I don’t think a 13 year old sharing with an adult sibling is ideal and especially given they are nominally different- erm- genders. Currently.
If your housing situation cannot change could you get a sofa bed to allow each person to have their own room and you sleep downstairs?
I would be discussing the differences between sex and gender with dd13 and suggesting she can be called whatever she likes but that further discussion around her sex or gender can be put on hold for now.

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