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'Feelgood' drag film.

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onalongsabbatical · 25/07/2020 17:15

There's a review of a drag film on the Guardian, and because I'm feeling particularly bolshie today I just left the following comment;
Blackface - white people dressing black for 'entertainment'. Terrible.
Drag - men dressing like women (or thinking they are) for 'entertainment'. What a laugh!
Hate it. I'd like to see it treated exactly like blackface - as an unacceptably degrading parody.

www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jul/25/stage-mother-review-jacki-weaver-feelgood-drag-film-falls-flat#comments

If anyone wants to comment and join me - not many comments as yet.

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fuckinghellapeacock · 25/07/2020 19:59

I commented
"Why is dragface acceptable? Little Britain is taken off air for ridiculing trans women but women are fair game? How is this acceptable in 2020?"

Not v witty or clever but there you go :)

Coyoacan · 25/07/2020 19:35

black women really object to comparing it to black face

Yeap. Someone did make a good effort to explain it and, from what I understood, black face in the USA has some extremely nasty associations with lynchings and the kkk, not just tasteless stuff like Al Jolson or The Black and White Minstrels.

Chiochan · 25/07/2020 18:59

The guardian is a discusting rag, dont even click on it anymore.

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onalongsabbatical · 25/07/2020 18:53

There were 4 comments - mine and peacock's and a couple of others not critical - I think they've just pulled all comments as too much trouble.

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Namechangetoavoidmra · 25/07/2020 18:45

as blackface is to black people

Namechangetoavoidmra · 25/07/2020 18:44

There was a twitter thread this morning on this issue (not the film, but on how drag can be seen as insulting to women and black face is to black people). I’ve always shared the same distaste with drag (although rarely seen it articulated) but I was interested to see some comments in the twitter stream about how some black women really object to comparing it to black face, which made me want to think of an alternative way of expressing what it is about it that is offensive and misogynistic

twitter.com/jamesbarry1789/status/1286859288951115776?s=21

Bishybarnybee · 25/07/2020 18:33

There aren't any comments now...are you saying there were, some of them were anti- drag, so they deleted the lot? Wow.

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onalongsabbatical · 25/07/2020 18:26

Fuck. Did you save yours fuckinghellapeacock? Post it here if you did.
I remember your peacock thread BTW - awesome!
Bastard Guardian bastard fucking delete culture I'm not having a good day. I used to give the bastard Guardian money, too.

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felineflutter · 25/07/2020 18:17

Oh

fuckinghellapeacock · 25/07/2020 17:53

Deleted! Mine was too. Misogynistic cunts.

nitgel · 25/07/2020 17:49

Already deleted fgs

BlueboxRedbox · 25/07/2020 17:46

I think your comment has been removed already by the Guardian moderators.

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onalongsabbatical · 25/07/2020 17:33

Great comment Cismyfatarse! May well be because you've only just joined, who knows?

Let's see how it goes and if the comments start to get longer I'll add yours later. But it might be a backwater - Guardian films sometimes is.

Thank you.

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Cismyfatarse1 · 25/07/2020 17:29

I tried. Upvoted yours but mine wouldn't post. Not sure if it is because I have just joined.

Below if anyone wants to post / adapt.

Decades after the end of the black and white minstrels and the awful parodies of BAME people we still think it is hilarious to parody women. I get that it has its roots in gay culture. Bullfighting has its roots in Spanish culture - but it still hurts the bull. The women in these parodies (or ‘women’) are either obsessed with sex (the slut / whore) or washed up and old (the bitter old woman) or naive and youthful (the virgin). No one dresses up as a CEO or a Brain Surgeon.

How is this OK? How is it OK to ridicule women through grotesque stereotypes and vile humour?