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Fair Cop dropping hints on Twitter

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teawamutu · 24/07/2020 08:38

About something big about to happen to a red organisation beginning with 'S' that they won't like.

V unfair to vaguetweet IMO Grin - anyone else seen it?

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Datun · 30/07/2020 11:15

highame

I would just love to know how much pressure they were under. I also want to know whether organisations like Stonewall have direct links to senior management. (which I know they do) and whether there was a big nudge. How can I find that info out?

Are they subject to an FOI request?

Xanthangum · 30/07/2020 11:04

Man complains

I'm not a fan of ad hominem attacks at all, but I think it's relevant that while a cursory glance at the complainer's biography would suggest that "Founder of Theatre Scotland" suggests someone with significant experience and perhaps wisdom and judgement, in fact Theatre Scotland is a website which seems to review musicals. Front page refers to 'industry proffesionals', and I keep coming across things that make me think it's a joke site:

He established Theatre Scotland with the intent to showcase Scotland’s superb theatre industry, along with giving accurate reviews from the younger generation of the Scottish theatre community.

And if you were wondering why "accurate":

On Theatre Scotland’s social media pages, also on our news and opinion pages, I do not criticize members of the community unless there is a very strong reason. Even if I do so, I make sure to do so constructively with professionalism and let our followers make their own minds up. All of the Theatre Scotland team does this. Infact every theatre critic I have met or admire has a professional deminer, and do not attack artists or creatives via their platform.

Recently I have been sitting back and watching carnage unfold on social media in regards to Alex Belfield. As much as I do not want to give this man another spotlight to soak up. Times up for me sitting back and it’s time to use this platform to voice anger, disgust and concern. This article has been written to try and be as constructive as possible however, at this point the situation with this individual has turned into a joke, therefore, it might get a little heated.

This man seems to think he is the genuine article and even though he has a large following on YouTube, his channel features nothing more than basic vlogs and toxic opinions. His reviews are very uncontructive, his news updates are all negative and not a single one is positive. These opinions are clearly to rile up members of the theatre community and build up his views through shock reaction. The biggest disbelief of his channel is he genuinely thinks that the theatre industry will invite him to press launches or press evenings after the clear uproar within the UK theatre community at him using the shutdown of the west end as his gain.

I don't know whether I am most appalled at the enthusiasm for cancel culture purity, the lack of self awareness or the unbearably clunky prose.

WhatKatyDidNot · 30/07/2020 10:14

#IheartJKR

That's the one I'll be using!

DickKerrLadies · 30/07/2020 10:06

#IheartJKR ?

craftyjan · 30/07/2020 10:05

On a side note is everyone posting on twitter for Joanne's birthday tomorrow with a hashtag ? What should it be ? #happybirthdayJKR ? Try to get it trending. Has this been said before I'm not up to speed?

DickKerrLadies · 30/07/2020 09:54

What about "I ❤️ Scotland" then? Would that be a political viewpoint favouring one view over the other?

highame · 30/07/2020 09:27

I would just love to know how much pressure they were under. I also want to know whether organisations like Stonewall have direct links to senior management. (which I know they do) and whether there was a big nudge. How can I find that info out?

Don't we taxpayers put money in, and if we do (take this for all public bodies) why are we not demanding a big enquiry into undue influence. For gods sake it's suffocating

Lamahaha · 30/07/2020 09:26

@SophocIestheFox

Posie put it up to have it taken down, surely? This was presumably the aim

And they fall for it every time Grin Durr.

Yes. This is on the comments thread:

I'd put money on Kellie- Jay fully expecting this to happen in order to get more people paying attention, thus discovering the absolute madness of what's going on.
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I did. And even though I expect it, I am still horrified when it does. Silencing and hating women is the acceptable corporate line.

SerenityNowwwww · 30/07/2020 09:21

You just can’t 💓 ny then...

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 30/07/2020 09:20

Love is hate.

senua · 30/07/2020 09:18

If I say "I ❤️ DH" is that a political statement?
Do we have to stop saying "I ❤️ the NHS"?
Confused

SerenityNowwwww · 30/07/2020 09:12

I know, I know! Massive hate pile on to us, and nothing to the poster (probably put up for free for the rest of the year).

teawamutu · 30/07/2020 08:53

What would happen if we asked to put up I❤️Stonewall - and then complained it was political?

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Floisme · 30/07/2020 08:35

Eh? The whole point of advertising is to promote one viewpoint over another, surely?
If you don't clean your floor your kids will be unhappy.
If you don't use the right cream your face will fall off.
If you don't wear perfume men won't buy you flowers. (Ok that's an old one)

SerenityNowwwww · 30/07/2020 08:13

Man complains and BR-S pees it’s pants. Now their logo...

Fair Cop dropping hints on Twitter
boatyardblues · 30/07/2020 08:12

Out of interest, did Network Rail host election materials on their ad boards? Leave or Remain materials? Do they host charity posters with a clear political agenda (eg pro life)?

Aesopfable · 30/07/2020 08:08

Presumably Network Rail have returned the payment?

Lordamighty · 30/07/2020 08:07

I’m surprised they left it up this long. The TRAs must have been emailing NR from the minute they knew about it, can’t allow support for women to be visible.

SerenityNowwwww · 30/07/2020 07:59

Does this work?

twitter.com/NetworkRailSCOT?s=12

Aesopfable · 30/07/2020 07:58

We need Maya’s appeal desperately.

SerenityNowwwww · 30/07/2020 07:54

Have I woken up in 1984?

Datun · 30/07/2020 07:48

@noblegiraffe

Posie put it up to have it taken down, surely? This was presumably the aim.

She now gets to go on the circuit and talk about how mad it all is.

Indeed.

And network rail are a stonewall champion? Is stonewall suddenly not political then?

Honestly. Candy and babies come to mind.

Women Shut Up is the beginning, middle and end of the campaign. But I cant wait to see the squirming network rail will be doing when they attempt to deny their complicity.

SophocIestheFox · 30/07/2020 07:22

Posie put it up to have it taken down, surely? This was presumably the aim

And they fall for it every time Grin Durr.

pombear · 30/07/2020 01:47

We do not allow advertising that is likely to support or promote one viewpoint over another.

One viewpoint: Transwomen are women. Transmen are men aka men are whoever they say they are, including saying they are women. Women are whoever they say they are, including saying they are men.

Another viewpoint: Hang on, could we just have a look at that statement as, although it makes some people feel more comfortable within the social norms that exist right now, men who say they are women actually aren't women and vice versa, and it could put a lot of people at risk, and others conflicted over their dignity and privacy.

National Rail: 'Nah, shut up, second-viewpointers. We like the first one better, so your's is invalid. (Sprinkles rainbows over our ad boards)

wellbehavedwomen · 30/07/2020 01:46

@pombear

From that article:

A spokesman for Network Rail said: “The poster in question is against our code of acceptance for advertising in our stations owing to its political nature. We do not allow advertising that is likely to support or promote one viewpoint over another.”

Hmm That'll be lots of other advertising removed then, eh? From other angles? Because they're all just a viewpoint? If Jo's is just a viewpoint, surely that means anything that disagrees with her is just a viewpoint too? Oh, hang on...

Network Rail are Stonewall Diversity Champions. They are literally paying the opposite side's lobby group, at a time when the government are considering legislative changes.

This 'debate' is about whether male people should be allowed free access, on their unprovable, subjective sayso, to women's sports, political representation, refuges, changing rooms, dorms, wards, and even as providers of samesex healthcare provision and rape counselling to women... and Network Rail are funding that side's campaign. While Network Rail are also removing women's rights even to protest; even in the most muted and coded of ways. As here.

Tell us more about your commitment to equality, Network Rail. Tell us more about how marginalised and hard done by this group are - you know, the one who have your money, along with the money of every single Establishment organisation or group or business or educational setting, so that their lobbyists can tell you what you're allowed to think about women's rights... and all the while, you silence women who dare to protest?

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