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Fair Cop dropping hints on Twitter

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teawamutu · 24/07/2020 08:38

About something big about to happen to a red organisation beginning with 'S' that they won't like.

V unfair to vaguetweet IMO Grin - anyone else seen it?

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ClocheEncounter · 24/07/2020 20:36

Took too long typing all that out, Floral beat me to it!

ClocheEncounter · 24/07/2020 20:35

The Book of Judges contains (chapter 4) the story of Deborah, prophet and Judge of Israel, before they had a monarchy. Deborah calls Barak, military leader, and tells him to march against the Caananites (Sisera being their general) and God will give them victory.

“K,” says Barak, “but only if you come.”

“K,” says Deborah, “but since you won’t take my word/God’s word on this, Sisera will be delivered into the hands of a woman”

Big battle, Sisera flees the battlefield and comes upon the tent of Jael, wife of Heber the Kenite, with whom the Canaanites have an understanding.

She speaks soft words to him, gives him a drink, lets him fall asleep and then rams a tent peg through his skull. And then walks out and tells Barak, “hey, are you looking for Sisera? Because well...”

And then there’s a victory song about how great God, Barak, Deborah and Jael are.

So no, definitely not trepanning Grin

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 24/07/2020 20:32

Ah. Fur coat, nae knickers, we call it up here.

FloralBunting · 24/07/2020 20:31

I think it's fair to say that driving a tent peg through the skull of a sleeping man is probably not a great surgical method in any culture.

Oh, and you can definitely begat with your coat on. It's very continental.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 24/07/2020 20:28

Trepanning gone terribly wrong?

FannyCann · 24/07/2020 20:23

This provides a good opportunity to share Artemisia Gentileschi's picture of Jael killing Sisera.

I'm no expert and unfamiliar with the story but are we sure she wasn't performing early brain surgery for a head injury? Burr holes for an extradural haematoma? The Incas and the Egyptians knew all about it I believe.

paniquer · 24/07/2020 20:01

Would it be a certain Labour that is not in the south?

ShiveringCoyote · 24/07/2020 19:58

I have an old family bible which contains every birth marriage and death in my family from 1802 in beautiful writing. Suffice to say we are a very female heavy crowd.

Binterested · 24/07/2020 19:53

Love this thread.

Weekend journos do their requests for comment on a Thursday evening / Friday. In time for the paper. Too late for anyone to do much about it. Hoping for something in the weekend papers 🤞

boatyardblues · 24/07/2020 19:46

@ScrimpshawTheSecond

Surely begatting requires you to take your coat off first?
Nope. You don’t even need to take off your breeches, just drop ‘em.
FreezerBird · 24/07/2020 19:43

Can I say how much I'm enjoying the turn this thread has taken? Jael, Artemisia Gentileschi, biblical language, the silliness of floral bibles for women...

I'm HOME!

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 24/07/2020 19:40

Surely begatting requires you to take your coat off first?

FloralBunting · 24/07/2020 19:27

Family joke here, if someone clearly fancies someone, we say they want to get down to some serious begatting.

I'll get me coat.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 24/07/2020 19:13

I love the beginning of KJV of Genesis - such utterly beautiful language. Never got past the begats, though, I'm afraid. They did go on a bit.

Xanthangum · 24/07/2020 19:10

Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

He's having a go at the flowers now!

StillWeRise · 24/07/2020 19:02

'good enough for St Paul' I like it
otoh, as a humanist, I was horrified when DD came home from heavily Christian CofE hign school (don't ask) with a 'modern' bible passage that went-
'think about the flowers growing in the fields, they don't work, do they?'

FloralBunting · 24/07/2020 18:48

Interestingly, even though I was very much part of the highly gendered patriarchy version of Christianity, I never had a twee floral women's bible. I had a solid, black leather Authorized Version, because if the KJV was good enough for St Paul, it was good enough for us.

(Ask me again how well I understand the neo-cult mindsetGrin)

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/07/2020 18:41

What an interesting thread. I'm halfway through the champagne, sorry.

RadandMad · 24/07/2020 17:53

Whatever it is, I just hope it really is good news. I can't take any more disappointment or wokebro nonsense.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 24/07/2020 17:10

Fascinating, re Jael, Sisera and Artemisia.

I can't see a reason why Jael killed Sisera.

Was he doing the spread eagle with her sister?

(cw; pun)

GrimDamnFanjo · 24/07/2020 17:06

I met Ben Summerskill a few times in another life and he was very helpful as well as very tall!
Used to know Tom Sutcliffes mum too. Anyone notice the nod to @glinner in his twitter bio?
As you were...

Freespeecher · 24/07/2020 17:05

I remember Judith and Holofernes but Jael and Sisera were new to me.

All too late Sisera realised this was no way to clear earwax...

Michelleoftheresistance · 24/07/2020 17:01

In fairness HQ have mentioned in the past considering moving FWR off trending to make it harder for passing random trolls to find.

SerenityNowwwww · 24/07/2020 16:57

This is my favourite. The look on salomes face!

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