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Green Party candidate sticks up for women

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showmethegin · 21/07/2020 11:20

Just came across this on Twitter, great to see

twitter.com/ShahrarAli/status/1285335761043296258?s=20

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PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 21/07/2020 13:16

This is encouraging, although 'we will fight for the rights of trans people according to their assigned gender, too.' is slightly worrying.

Bit like when Labour published a manifesto promising single sex spaces & then 'TWAW!' in the next breath.

Not that I'm saying that the GP shouldn't fight for trans people - of course they should! - but I'd like to be quite sure that didn't include the 'right' to the single sex spaces of the opposite sex, if that happens to be those associated with their 'assigned gender'.

Maybe I'm too cynical! It's a great start & probably enough for me to join. Politically homeless since Labour lost the plot.

GreenieFingers · 21/07/2020 13:07

We need support in the GPEW to dump the infiltrators and the current leadership - SB, JB and AW are completely TWAW and do nothing at all to prevent the internal bullying that stems from the TRAs.

All new members joining by 31st July will be eligible to vote and we need to get the information out there about who is best to vote for.

Apart from everything else, there is little more important nowadays than preserving what we have left of this planet for future generations. We really are running out of time to make a difference. The quicker the infiltrators in the GPEW are removed from their positions of power, the quicker the GPEW will resume Service As Normal and not be wasting time on gender identity politics.

OhHolyJesus · 21/07/2020 12:52

Deadline for joining is 31st. Voting for motions is 1st. Good luck joining, the admin system is a shambles!

Collidascope · 21/07/2020 12:50

Here's hoping Rosemary Sexton doesn't win.

Firstly, yes, Stonewall have specifically said they want to change the equality act to withdraw the right to single-sex spaces.

Secondly, maybe don't reply to a woman who's been threatened with rape by completely ignoring her trauma. At least pretend to give a shit.

Green Party candidate sticks up for women
Green Party candidate sticks up for women
PegasusReturns · 21/07/2020 12:46

Now that everything is transphobic such an accusation no longer holds the sway it once did.

The TRAs over played their hand.

Needmoresleep · 21/07/2020 12:42

I like the sound of Shahrar Ali.

If he wins the Greens can have my vote.

StandWithYou · 21/07/2020 12:36

@BolloxtoGender

What have we come to to be so grateful when a politician from Green Party (or Labour) speaks for women's (rightful) rights and the truth. IMO it's the minimum they should be doing as part of their job.

dons hard hat

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AnIckabog · 21/07/2020 12:35

Mind you, they have a whole LGBTIQA+ (think I got that right, I genuinely tried to remember between tabs!) manifesto which includes self-ID.

BolloxtoGender · 21/07/2020 12:33

@showmethegin yes it's an indication of the darkness we are in, when we have to clutch at glimmers of hope.

Eyesofdisarray · 21/07/2020 12:32

Brilliant!
Is the tide turning??????????

showmethegin · 21/07/2020 12:30

@BolloxtoGender Yes you're right; it is the least they should be doing however it has now become so rare to actually see them do this it is noteworthy. How depressing!

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BolloxtoGender · 21/07/2020 12:29

Had no idea that would turn out bold

BolloxtoGender · 21/07/2020 12:28

What have we come to to be so grateful when a politician from Green Party (or Labour) speaks for women's (rightful) rights and the truth. IMO it's the minimum they should be doing as part of their job.

dons hard hat

Maduixa · 21/07/2020 12:24

Someone said in the comments (to Shahrar's tweet) that you must be a member by 31 July 2020 in order to vote.

Can't find a "join-by" date on the Greens website, just this: "Members will then be able to vote between 3 and 31 August and the results will be announced shortly after. All fully paid-up members are eligible to vote by single transferable vote, with ballots issued by email and, where required, paper copies."

www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2020/07/02/green-party-announces-leadership-candidates-as-campaign-gets-underway/

Beamur · 21/07/2020 12:14

Good for them!

showmethegin · 21/07/2020 12:10

I'm not sure, lifetime labour voter (although fully willing to change that if the Greens are adopting this stance!)

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OnAPar · 21/07/2020 11:51

@ScrimpshawTheSecond

If I joined now, would I be able to vote for him? And Andrea Carey Fuller? Can anyone explain the processes? I was a member many years ago, but while it's been capitulating to the apologists for the Challenors, I wouldn't touch it.
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ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 21/07/2020 11:47

+1 for wondering if it's too late to join the green party to get these people voted in? A party lead by people who support the rights of everyone as enshrined in the equalities act whilst recognising reality and answering straight questions with straight answers would truly be something to behold in this day and age.

LOLeater · 21/07/2020 11:47

I will not vote Labour until they recognise my sex. If the Green Party makes a clear and unequivocal commitment to protecting women only spaces, I will vote for them. Just watching and waiting.....

Deliriumoftheendless · 21/07/2020 11:40

Of COURSE someone in the comments is saying it sound transphobic (but they’re not trolling!). Neither does she explain HOW it is, but also no one seems to bother addressing her. Has the “OMG!! That’s, like, sooooooo transphobic” shit throwing approach finally lost its magic?

I will also be considering the greens if they start being sensible again.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 21/07/2020 11:35

Ah, it's the GP for England and Wales. Will be interesting to see how Patrick Harvie takes this.

Collidascope · 21/07/2020 11:33

Good on him. And Andrea Carey Fuller. Really heartening to see some sensible people in the Green Party.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 21/07/2020 11:30

If I joined now, would I be able to vote for him? And Andrea Carey Fuller? Can anyone explain the processes? I was a member many years ago, but while it's been capitulating to the apologists for the Challenors, I wouldn't touch it.

showmethegin · 21/07/2020 11:28

So would I.

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 21/07/2020 11:25

This is the best statement on the subject from a politician that I think I've seen yet. So bloody heartening. Let's hope he succeeds in his leadership bid - the party might yet be salvageable, and I'd join.

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