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Transwomen face being banned from playing rugby with women

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JaJaDingDong · 20/07/2020 15:37

World Rugby is considering banning trans women from playing women’s rugby because of significant safety concerns that have emerged following recent research...…… there is likely to be “at least a 20-30% greater risk” of injury when a female player is tackled by someone who has gone through male puberty....

www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/19/transwomen-face-potential-womens-rugby-ban-over-safety-concerns

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Voice0fReason · 20/07/2020 22:50

It is completely disgraceful that women were ever put in such a dangerous position in the first place, of having to compete against men.

GinUnicorn · 20/07/2020 21:16

Fantastic news. If anyone is on Twitter I recommend visiting the wonderful Dr Emma Hilton for her research on this as it’s fascinating

ButterflyBitch · 20/07/2020 21:12

Aw what a shame Hmm

wifflewafflebiscuit · 20/07/2020 21:09

Thank goodness. Now for female martial arts, boxing, wrestling, football, roller Derby etc.

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QualityFeet · 20/07/2020 20:46

Yeah it’s a tough game and so important that female teams only have biological women. One f-m trans player who was to play in a male team is now in a wheel chair permanently after a bad tackle. It Is an awful outcome but should also be a rare outcome. It would be more frequent with more m-f trans players.

Dozer · 20/07/2020 20:43

Outrageous that this was allowed in the first place. Dangerous. Rugby is already one of the most dangerous sports.

ChattyLion · 20/07/2020 20:39

Good move by the rugby authorities. Increased injury for women players must not be the price of male validation.

LizzieSiddal · 20/07/2020 20:36

If this does happen, it will be a great example to use to discount the nutty “trans women are women” mantra.

DianasLasso · 20/07/2020 20:20

@MintyMabel

No particular issue with that but I'm genuinely surprised that he cuts the mustard. I was a semi decent footballer but I was way out of my league when guesting in a male team. And frequently off the pitch for blood injuries*

I used to go out with a rugby player. He was pretty much the same size as me. As a winger, it was his speed rather than his bulk that made him an excellent player.

But I bet he was a hell of a lot stronger than you, and I'd put money on him being faster than you even if you were a county-level woman sprinter/ middle distance runner.

I'm a climber. One of my many ex boyfriends who was also a climber was only an inch taller than me, and a very similar body type (allowing for the difference in sex, obviously) - but the difference in our strength was just huge.

ShineyMcShine · 20/07/2020 20:08

Should be like this for all sports. Felt disgusted watching the fight between the "transwoman" and actual woman

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 20/07/2020 20:02

Good good fuckity good!!

MintyMabel · 20/07/2020 19:59

No particular issue with that but I'm genuinely surprised that he cuts the mustard. I was a semi decent footballer but I was way out of my league when guesting in a male team. And frequently off the pitch for blood injuries*

I used to go out with a rugby player. He was pretty much the same size as me. As a winger, it was his speed rather than his bulk that made him an excellent player.

moofolk · 20/07/2020 19:53

Finally!

Sittinonthefloor · 20/07/2020 19:11

And anyone who argues against this ruling is clearly not bothered about hurting women. What has the response been?

Durgasarrow · 20/07/2020 18:54

facts

Durgasarrow · 20/07/2020 18:54

Transwomen are “are stronger by 25%-50%, are 30% more powerful, 40% heavier, and about 15% faster than players who are assigned female at birth (who do not experience an androgen-influenced development).”

These fats need to be repeated when it comes to every sport. Whenever it comes to bathrooms. To any private space. These are the inconvenient facts that women live with.

Durgasarrow · 20/07/2020 18:51

20 to 50 percent, it seemed to indicate in the study.

SymbollocksInteractionism · 20/07/2020 18:32

About fucking time

wineandroses1 · 20/07/2020 18:28

It was outrageous in the first place to allow male-bodied rugby players to compete against females - what sort of idiot agreed to that?

Let's hope this becomes the rule in all other sports too, otherwise female sports will be destroyed. It must be terrible for an elite athlete to train for a sport that they have no chance of ever winning.

Getagripffs · 20/07/2020 18:24

I find it a bit frustrating all the wide-eyed amazement that after all this research there is finally some reason to suppose that male-bodied people have a physical advantage over female-bodied people

Quite - its a really fascinating insight into the power of culture.
This pretence that maybe male bodied people didn't have an advantage because of how they identified, and how it needed to be researched, even though everyone could see with their eyes that they did and even though all of our lived experiences meant we all knew the greater physical strength and size that men have. It's absolutely fascinating from a sociological perspective. Also says something about the status of women though, that this pretence needed to be gone through.

Melroses · 20/07/2020 18:19

Ooo - covered on R4 6pm news in some depth.

Nasty people maintaining contact sport for women. Grin

randolph78 · 20/07/2020 18:05

Thank goodness. Male puberty adds on so much strength and muscle compared to female and females need protecting. I wonder what would be the decision for a transwoman who had taken hormone blockers and never gone through puberty? I guess this will put more pressure on children to take life-changing drugs. Pandora's box I think!

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JaJaDingDong · 20/07/2020 18:02

I have a trans (f-m) who plays rugby on a men's team, they are really accepting! I hope this won't mean he can't play

I don't know if that's brave or foolish!

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aliasundercover · 20/07/2020 17:59

Transwomen face being banned from playing rugby with women

I think we can phrase that in a more honest way:

Women to be allowed to play rugby against women

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