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Has Liz Truss said she won't make an announcement on GRA until September?

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happydappy2 · 20/07/2020 14:30

Twitter seems to think so-is it true?

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Imnobody4 · 20/07/2020 15:53

www.politicshome.com/news/article/boris-johnson-promises-ban-on-gay-conversion-therapy
Am heartened he states precisely gay conversion therapy.
Also includes this on GRA. Not sure what over the summer means. I must admit I'm feeling a bit sick.

Mr Johnson also promised a full update on whether the Government has plans to update the Gender Recognition Act - including whether to allow self-identifiation, which would make it easier for people to change their gender marker on official documents - over the summer.

BaronessSnippyPantsofCroneArmy · 20/07/2020 15:48

There has been no official word on a delay so at this point it would be speculation. She is due to speak on Wednesday, as Whatisthisfuckery said upthread, and there are a number of questions already tabled.

There is a full cabinet meeting tomorrow and that may be when it is decided whether to go for it on Wednesday or not.

I think women have waited long enough. Time to speak out and hopefully put an end to this nonsense.
Clare Coutinho has a topical question slot and that may be the intro for Liz Truss to make her announcement.

Has Liz Truss said she won't make an announcement on GRA until September?
teawamutu · 20/07/2020 15:37

Who's behind Trans Actual?

happydappy2 · 20/07/2020 15:31

Trans Actual have tweeted that her announcement will be delayed-I just wonder if this is true and if so, how to trans Actual know before the general public?

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Whatisthisfuckery · 20/07/2020 15:28

I think the summer recess starts on Thursday. Liz Truss is taking questions in the house on Wednesday so I’m told, so maybe she’ll make her announcement on Wednesday morning?

I agree though, all the delays don’t fill me with confidence.

Manderleyagain · 20/07/2020 15:17

When does the summer recess start? Was it today? If so my guess is it will wait til after the summer break. I do t think it's a good sign. There has been a big effort by trans activists to get people emailing their MPs and we know there are people withing government, and especially within the civil service who want the gra reforms to go through, and want the stonewall interpretation of equality act to be the only one.
If they are waiting for court cases they will be waiting a long time. I tho k we have to keep the pressure up. Our side just don't have the same lobbying inroads that the other lot do.

JamieLeeCurtains · 20/07/2020 15:08

I think if there's a delay it's to absorb a fair few things:

  1. The change to the NHS guidance on the use of Lupron etc as allegedly 'temporary puberty blockers'
  2. The Baroness Nicholson's intervention
  3. The Rugby decision and its repercussions for all women's sports
  4. Impending court cases centering freedom of speech

And yes

  1. The trans machine pushback

And

  1. Where the actual votes are
  2. What the law is
  3. What the law needs to be
teawamutu · 20/07/2020 15:08

God, i can't cope with this. Have a horrible feeling they're going to backtrack on the backtrack.

Kit19 · 20/07/2020 14:58

if there is a delay my concern would be the other way Pud.

Stonewall et al will have been pulling out all the stops to lobby her with their most emotional stories interspaced with the nice line in veiled threats they have. I imagine she's under huge pressure to cave in or rerun the consultation

Siablue · 20/07/2020 14:57

Do you think that they are waiting for court cases to come up? There are a lot of them.

Melroses · 20/07/2020 14:54

I hope so too - they were clearly not very thorough in the run up to this, as can be seen in the Miller Report. I hope they take the time to fill in the missing information.

Pudmyboy · 20/07/2020 14:49

I hope the delay means the response will be thorough, well written and of course puts the brake on the current madness. My wish list would include a review of Stonewall and Mermaid et al influence and an investigation into how they have such a hold when they seem unaccountable and their programmes unregulated by any sort of safeguarding (please feel free to correct me if I have got that wrong)

Melroses · 20/07/2020 14:41

Boris says that they said they will respond over the summer and that's what they are going to do Confused

It will happen when it happens.