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Posie Parker at Speaker's Corner earlier today

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SunsetBeetch · 19/07/2020 17:32

Enjoy. Ovaries of steel, this woman.

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Quillink · 04/09/2020 10:48

For Posie, being a housewife means that she can be outspoken in a way that the employed can't. She has nothing to lose.

I'm grateful for people like her. She's uncompromising in her advocacy for children and not afraid to say it. SH and JB's response is not a good look.

PegasusReturns · 04/09/2020 10:47

It’s jealousy.

None of them can stand the fact that PP was able to mobilise women in a way that they couldn’t.

Eaton is particularly eaten up with rage over it all.

It’s like high school.

Escapeplanning · 04/09/2020 10:41

Sally clarifies this morning that it's ok to be a suburban housewife. (Phew, thanks). Just not one that says or does anything that suburban housewives understand because suburban housewives can't be political. Suburban housewives automatically become"right wing anti feminist" if they speak to other women.
mobile.twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1301806066662100992

No, it's not making a lot of sense but do sign up for your 9,000 a year useless degree in pomo blabla to hear more.

RozWatching · 04/09/2020 10:40

I saw that Destinysdaughter. The islamophobia/racism accusations are ridiculous. Going by the screenshots I've seen, PP hasn't said anything that Bindel wouldn't agree with.

standpointmag.co.uk/features-december-10-gangs-girls-and-grooming-the-truth-julie-bindel-asian-gangs-pimps-rotherham/

vapeinafleshlight · 04/09/2020 10:40

Grr. Annoying frigging blokes wittering on in the background.

"Got nicked mayte....yeeeeeh someone stole it mayte". Shut up 🤐

DialSquare · 04/09/2020 10:31

Magdalen Berns was so outspoken and most feminists (including me) loved her for it. Posie Parker is just as outspoken in her own way and she is 'divisive'? I don't get it.

This is a really good point. Could it be that the "purity" feminists are actually showing their own ingrained bias here? That because Magdalen was a lesbian she is treated differently to Posie who is heterosexual and a suburban housewife?

RozWatching · 04/09/2020 10:22

There are many things that Bindel has done over the years that have pissed me off but this is a new low

Agreed. When all this is over, Julie Bindel can stop wanging on about her deplatforming and other people's platforms, and focus on her amazing work with vulnerable women. Everyone wins.
The sooner that happens, the better.

queenofknives · 04/09/2020 10:10

Have to admit I've never understood the hatred and approbation for Posie. I don't agree with everything she says 100% of the time but that is the case for literally everyone! It's quite normal, surely, to have areas of disagreement, or just sometimes think, ooh I wouldn't have said that/said it that way/that's a bit much or whatever? I'd say the same about JB - I support her work with women, not massively keen on her media feminism or her personality from what I've seen of it.

I don't get why there's this demand for women to agree 100% about everything all the time, right down to the way that something is expressed. It seems so petty and personal. Magdalen Berns was so outspoken and most feminists (including me) loved her for it. Posie Parker is just as outspoken in her own way and she is 'divisive'? I don't get it.

Sorry, I am just having a moan, really. But I do wish that we would lower our expectations of each other a bit, and maybe be more charitable - assume that other women have good intentions and want the same things we do. Overlook petty disagreements. And certainly don't give ammunition to TRAs like Sally Hines.

Destinysdaughter · 04/09/2020 10:04

Dr Jessica Eaton is another one who has a bee in her bonnet about PP and there's a whole series of tweets denouncing her. Personally I think it's pathetic feminists attacking each other when we've got a much bigger enemy to fight.

Floisme · 04/09/2020 10:04

It's bizarre, but also a useful reminder that no-one has the monopoly on this, and that even people I admire can do something so dumb and shitty that it takes my breath away.

TinselAngel · 04/09/2020 09:58

Hines would gladly burn women’s rights and dance in the embers laughing drunkenly, but so strong is Julie’s hatred of Posie she feels the need to justify herself to Hines!

RozWatching · 04/09/2020 09:57

I can't help but see the funny side of Sally Hines questioning another woman's worth as a women's rights campaigner. Has Sally read her own work? Has Bindel read Sally's work??? Grin

DaisiesandButtercups · 04/09/2020 09:49

Poise Parker is brilliant!

Proud housewife and mother here too!

Clymene · 04/09/2020 09:38

@TinselAngel

That any feminist would even give Sally Hines the time of day, let alone share mutual back slapping over opposition to Posie, is just gobsmacking.
There are many things that Bindel has done over the years that have pissed me off but this is a new low
TinselAngel · 04/09/2020 09:35

That any feminist would even give Sally Hines the time of day, let alone share mutual back slapping over opposition to Posie, is just gobsmacking.

RozWatching · 04/09/2020 09:34

Thank god for Allison Bailey and Maya Forstater
mobile.twitter.com/MForstater/status/1301520571075883010

SunsetBeetch · 04/09/2020 09:17

@queenofknives

I find that rather despicable of JB.
Same. Really disappointing.
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2020 09:15

A suburban housewife who needs a good fuck according to Sally. Poor Sally, in her desperate attempts to stay relevant to her young students, cones across as a middle aged woman crossed with a teenage boy. I'm cringing for her.

It's excruciating.

queenofknives · 04/09/2020 09:06

I find that rather despicable of JB.

Clymene · 04/09/2020 09:00

A suburban housewife who needs a good fuck according to Sally. Poor Sally, in her desperate attempts to stay relevant to her young students, cones across as a middle aged woman crossed with a teenage boy. I'm cringing for her.

Floisme · 04/09/2020 08:46

I get that Julie Bindel dislikes Posie Parker intensely. I still can't imagine disliking anyone so badly that I'd respond to a thread by Sally Hines just to diss them.

I really admire Allison Bailey.

persistentwoman · 04/09/2020 08:07

This from the brilliant Allison Bailey is an excellent riposte to all this:

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1301500534491316224

gardenbird48 · 04/09/2020 08:06

SH doesn’t make herself look good there.

I don’t really understand this row about PP but I think she’s doing amazing things for women!

xxyzz · 04/09/2020 07:54

Are we in the 1950s? Since when was calling a woman a 'suburban housewife' an acceptable term of insult?

Is there something I'm missing whereby those who choose to live neither in the gritty urban centre nor in a village are seen as somehow lesser?

Does choosing to be a SAHM mean that you are seen to have left your brains in the office you used to work at?

Confused

I'd love to be able to afford to be a SAHM, and find suburbia a nice, not-too-expensive place to bring up kids, thank you.

Confused
Thingybob · 04/09/2020 00:55

I've just read through some of SH tweets, god what an awful person. I guess she'll delete them when she sobers up in the morning.