70% in favour of self-id

How was the question worded?
How much information were respondents given about implications?
We need our own survey, which includes questions about prisons, sports and prizes, and which makes it clear that male genitalia are intact for for >80% of transwomen.

This is about the design of the questionnaire (as well as recruitment to fill it out).

Stonewall were encouraging children to send in their 1 click response! Via a CBBC presenter!

It doesn’t take much sifting to go ‘oh most of these 70% are identical - best pay closer attention to the 30%’

Besides, a government consultation isn’t a democratic vote - it could’ve been 99% in favour but if the 1% pointed out something that that government realised was insurmountable, that would be enough to influence the official response.

This large survey shows the vast majority of people don't want to share single sex spaces when you spell out what it actually means:
wingsoverscotland.com/transforming-the-question

When you're protesting outside a seat of power that's literally flying your flag, it may be worth having a think...

Great (and unsurprising) to see the protest faced zero intimidation or attempts to stop it going ahead, unlike every event organised by GC women in Bristol.

Here's one of yesterday's speakers giving 'cis women' their orders:
mobile.twitter.com/galaxaure/status/1284526406530150400

And here's the same person blocking Dr Heather Brunskell Evans from speaking at Bristol Uni: www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/protesters-filmed-interrupting-talk-transgender-2247064.amp

Me too testing. About a dozen family members and friends each sent personalised replies too. I sat with them and discussed the issues. Each response was tailored to that individual through their life experience as a female.

Some were older women who didn't relish the prospect of receiving intimate care from males or being in hospital in a confined space with males.

Another had an abusive ex and had previously used a refuge - the thought of men accessing this women only safe space naturally filled her with fear for vulnerable women.

Another just stated the obvious that she doesn't want males in her spaces or competing against her daughters. That the reasons for sex segregation are valid and reasonable.

When I was handing out flyers in my home town I spoke to a number of BME families and they had real concerns too.

Among all the wide range of people I approached, not one was in favour of the GRA reform proposals and not one person knew about it because this was supposed to be slipped through silently.

That's what creeps me out the most, even more than these captured organisations and their cut and pastes, their lies and aggressive, expensive marketing campaigns and lobbying, that the powers that be would try to pass this by stealth by making out it was just a little change, a bit of paperwork that only impacts a few people who self identify as transgender.

Individually completed, carefully considered responses will always carry a lot more weight. They demonstrate that someone cares enough to do that, and that they've considered the area under consultation, personally.

I am glad I spent the time to answer as an individual.

And weren't these organisations targeting children too? Encouraging them to return one click submissions.

Catch 'em young.

The GRA consultation wasn’t exactly publicised to the skies. I would imagine 99% of the british public has no idea it was even happening. I didn’t until WPUK posted about it on twitter

Meanwhile stonewall et al had already prepared their cut & paste responses for their followers & activists to use. This is btw completely normal behaviour in the voluntary sector. Most government consultations receive next to no responses other than from interested lobby groups. Civil servants are well used to seeing identikit responses to consultations

Which is why the government will also have looked to the wider coverage of the issue and the public’s response

Personally I think the whole thing is really deceptive.

I wonder what the response would be if the questions were rephrased.

Do you think fully in tact male bodies should be allowed to change alongside your daughters etc

Bet people wouldn't be quite so happy then.

The yougov poll of this stated that 2/3 thought a medical diagnosis should be necessary, more people opposed GRA than for it by a long shot, self I'd was not popular, this was in last couple of weeks but outside of various bubbles general public opinion is not in the same place, most people still think biological sex is a reality and it is noted as a biological reality at birth not assigned in some arbitrary way, just like people can be in Brexit bubbles not knowing anyone voting for Brexit so you can be in gender bubbles without realising that it is a bubble and not a reflection of general thought.

It's also a consultation not a referendum. Even if the comments not agreeing were fewer, if they make points about why the change would be detrimental then they should be listened to. With regard to any issue, not just this one.

The Guardian wrote, in June:

"According to the Sunday Times, about 100,000 responses to the public consultation were received with an overwhelming majority – about 70% – in favour of allowing people to self-identify as a man or a woman.

Officials were said to believe that the results had been “skewed” by an “avalanche” of responses generated by trans rights groups, although transgender people, including non-binary people, are estimated to make up about 1% of the UK population."

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/14/trans-rights-government-reported-to-be-dropping-gender-self-identifying-plans

Oh, that. Stonewall & Gendered Intelligence were churning out the one-click replies. Given how much power Stonewall has nowadays, & that the feminist resistance was starting from scratch with grassroots, crowdfunded groups, I think we did bloody well to get 30%.

We won't know until the data is formally given, but the belief is that it was the same as the Google attempt recently - lots of submissions of pre-written online forms, which could have been submitted from anywhere on earth, too. It doesn't necessarily reflect thoughtful, considered views from people feeling strongly after looking into something. It could just reflect someone clicking on a page.

It's nice that the young people protesting in Bristol feel strongly about what they see as compassion; that's always a good thing, but they're not exactly informed about both sides, are they.

70% of a politically engaged group, many of whom will have a self-interest. It won’t be representative of society as a whole. Many people had no idea the consultation was running, or what it was about.

70% of an entirely self-selected group.

From the link:
A spokesperson told the BBC: "On 14th June 2020, the Sunday Times reported that, despite 70% of responses to the recent consultation on the reform of the Gender Recognition Act being in favour of self-identification, the UK Government intends to scrap the GRA reform and roll back the hard-won rights of trans and non-binary people.

It was 70% of responses to the gra consultation. Apparently it was obvious a huge number of the pro responses were single click type ones obviously promoted by transgender activists.

As others have said, consultations aren't referendums, a few good arguments pointing out harms in a reform should be taken seriously.

They only asked three people?