Fully outed myself as GC at woke workplace

'Hysteria'

How many trans people do you have at your company

If it is IT related and as male dominated as redtrees says, then probably quite a few.

Sure people are always extremely careful to stay on the ‘right’ side of the line, but it doesn’t take a genius to read between the lines. It saddens me that the most vociferous proponents of this are stoking fears and divisions where none need exist. Every now and then the mask slips

There is no mask, except for one of politeness in most instances.

What has been said is that:

1. People cannot change sex. Sex exists, and has consequences.

1. Women & girls have a right to single sex spaces, services and sports ( enshrined in law) for their dignity, comfort, fairness and safety.

1. Equality does not mean sameness. Different but equal.

1. All citizens of the Uk already have equal legal and civil rights as it stands.What you are imposing is additional rights for one group, at the direct expense of others.

1. The ideas that go into shaping contemporary transgenderism are ideological ones. Not material facts.

1. Women will not give up their spaces, hard won, without a fight.

1. Women of certain ethnicities and religions would not be permitted a public life if males were permitted into their spaces.

1. An adult can identify however they like, but that is not the same as enforcing compliance on everyone else. Or changing the world to suit.

1. Most people are respectful to others unless given reason not to be. this does not need to be enforced in a workplace under threat of dismissal. That is just weird..and more than a little scary.

What a horrific sounding workplace. I couldn't bear it.

@Jayaywhynot it means Gender Critical. In other words, people who recognise that men have exploited and abused women and girls for millennia on the basis of biology, and we have sex based needs because of this. We reject trans ideology as it ignores sex, the root of our oppression, and is extremely misogynistic, reducing women to a feeling in men's heads. It puts women and girls in danger by pushing for male access to women's spaces, which we need because of our biology.....biology men can never share so they have no need for our spaces. They want it, regardless.

Well quite clearly Redtrees is willing to pronounce with absolute certainty on the unexpressed views of 300 employees so I imagine reading unwritten words is a doddle.

Seems to be a ‘go to’ for some posters on this board

It should be easy to tell us? You have confidently stated that there is a company view and anyone not having that view would not fit in, so how have you found out everyone's views are identical to yours? I think you should share as this could be a new phenomenon in human behaviour.

Fanta we send all employees to an intensive thought camp. Honestly

I'm a bit behind, what is GC?

@Coyoacan I hope you’ll reread your comment when you’re sober and realise how utterly ridiculous that is. I honestly wonder how some of you function in the real world

Perfectly well...We're mothers, grandmothers, teachers, health professionals, lawyers, journalists, carers, supermarket workers, shop keepers.......and we all know the difference between treating others with respect and dignity; and manipulative, enforced mind control ( in the name of supposed 'equality').

Pull the other one. Many of us have also been politically active on any number of issues, mainly of the left -liberation movement variety......But what you are asserting is simply authoritarian, ideological control, reminiscent of Orwell's 1984,...and the main casualties of that are women and girls ( children, generally) and truth more generally.

How do you conduct the purity interviews for your employees? You claim upthread their is a single "company" view and as companies are legal entities I presume you mean all 300 people have the same views. Are you going to share how you have reached this conclusion?

Yes Fanta, I’m definitely finding validation and some legitimate reasons to back up my views from this forum

But the OP and others seize on it as an opportunity to wind up the hysteria and post on here to try to find validation and some ‘legitimate’ reasons to back up their views.

I think you are describing your own behaviour to be honest!

Baroness none currently so far as I’m aware but we have previously.

How many trans people do you have at your company?

Do you also ask people to put their sexuality, marital status and number of children down? It just feels like personal information to me, especially if you weren't ready to go public yet. You didn't answer that. Certainly no hatred of anyone here and tolerance just means'put up with' not acceptance anyway.

I think I missed an earlier post on this, but we don’t require anyone to put this down obviously. In the OPs instance it was merely an employee posting on the intranet that they intended to include pronouns and why it was a nice idea. It’s not as I understand it any requirement of the company so people are free to do as they wish. But the OP and others seize on it as an opportunity to wind up the hysteria and post on here to try to find validation and some ‘legitimate’ reasons to back up their views.

So many questions!

We are a thriving business with a diverse employee base and women in most of the top management roles (including our GC).

But if a woman is ‘anyone who identifies as one’ that statement becomes meaningless.

In the "real world" if I'm asked to qualify a statement I made at work that impacts employment policy I'd be expected to fully expand on it.

Again, redtrees, can you give a specific example of what you consider to be a GC view that you would attempt to sack someone for? I don't know how you function in the real world making statements like that without actually being able to think of one.

And do you consider the belief that "same-sex attraction is a fetish" as acceptable? You've said you wouldn't tolerate transphobic or homophobic beliefs - if a colleague said this to you tomorrow what would be your response?

Do you also ask people to put their sexuality, marital status and number of children down? It just feels like personal information to me, especially if you weren't ready to go public yet. You didn't answer that. Certainly no hatred of anyone here and tolerance just means'put up with' not acceptance anyway.

Sure people are always extremely careful to stay on the ‘right’ side of the line, but it doesn’t take a genius to read between the lines.

Fantastic isn't it! Judged for what you haven't said. What an extremely prejudiced way of treating people.

No mask, not transphobic but am GC.

I have non transphobic credentials. Remember AIDS, well I was someone who was helping the (then called) Gay community.

I know this doesn't exonerate me, and I could still be called a transphobic, by a zealot I assume but not by the community I tried my very very best to help

How many trans people do you have at your company?

@scrimpshawthesecond We use a range of interrogation techniques From some of the comments on this thread you’d think my company was a Russian gulag. We are a thriving business with a diverse employee base and women in most of the top management roles (including our GC). We are not some kind of repressed subjugated group suffering at the hands of a tyrannical leader! But from that position of strength we don’t feel the need to repress or subjugate others and we strive to be inclusive. It is too apparent reading through some of the threads on here that in many instances GC serves as a cloak for transphobia (by which I mean a hatred and intolerance of trans people (before someone asks ). Sure people are always extremely careful to stay on the ‘right’ side of the line, but it doesn’t take a genius to read between the lines. It saddens me that the most vociferous proponents of this are stoking fears and divisions where none need exist. Every now and then the mask slips.

@Kit19 I’m not familiar with this term. Presumably a play on derailing? 🤷‍♀️