Fully outed myself as GC at woke workplace

nor worthy enough!

Honesty is so important

@NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace

This......indeed I wouldn't be impressed and would feel conned that I was worthy enough to be told. Each to their own and all but I know what I like and want and wouldn't be impressed to get the opposite.

"Does anybody know a heterosexual male that would seriously see no difference between dating a woman and a transwoman?
Does anyone know a heterosexual woman who would see no difference between dating a man and a transman?
The last time I got lucky after a wild night, it would have ended 'unpleasantly' if we'd got back to this hotel room and I'd discovered that he was anything other than male!"

I am person on my email.

I don't feel the need to specify any further than my name.

S J Brown (who cares really what comes here?)

I'd be really interested to read your points. I've hovered over the keyboard a nimber of times and bottled it for fear I'd rant too far

Great article FantaOra and McDuffy - thank you.

My work is male dominated and not woke. Diversity chief has put pronouns in his email but I can’t see white van man doing that. I would just simply refuse to do it - sack me if you want because I will be the test case at a tribunal.

Ibelieve somebody actually took a quip about interrogation as literal fact!

I don't believe that given what you posted that you would not quiz and "interrogate" your employees about their beliefs.

I doubt that keeping their views to themselves would satisfy you if anyone failed to actively embrace what you think they should. After all according to the wokerati "Silence is violence"

Welcome, lurkers. Nice to see you all.

I'm with you moptophairshop, there are so many amazing women on here who articulate how I'm feeling much better than I ever could.
There inevitably comes a time, however, when you need to put your own head above the parapet. I feel like this is a safe place to start, if only to help with formulating the arguments we'll no doubt encounter in real life.

Welcome lurkers one and all! The importance of you joining in is to remind other lurkers and the monitors that there are more of us than one might assume, ready and willing to pick up the baton when other posters need to step back. We are many and, no, we won’t shut up.

Hello to the delurkers!

Hi *Winderlust, it looks like a good day for delurking! I think dumbfoundedness sums that up quite nicely, I think I'm running out of words to describe how surreal this whole thing seems. Like Dialsquare I've been unsure about what I can add to these discussions. I see so many thoroughly researched, intelligent arguments that resound strongly with me. At the moment the only thing I can add is another voice in support but I guess it's a start.

not even sure dumbfoundedness is even a word, but it expresses my feelings at this point!

DialSquare and moptophairshop i will join the delurker ranks with you, due to my sheer dumbfoundedness at redtrees' nonsensical posts!

In the OPs instance it was merely an employee posting on the intranet that they intended to include pronouns and why it was a nice idea. It’s not as I understand it any requirement of the company so people are free to do as they wish.
Yet you insisted that to express the views the OP did would be worthy of dismissal (without ever answering the question why). Which is it? Why are you now trying to downplay your contribution -or lack of- to this thread?

can you not see the uniformity evidenced by posters across these threads? They read like you’re brainwashed

Gaslighting from Redtree there. Really, are we brainwashed if we believe biology is real and women employees should not have compelled speech forced on them or lose their jobs?

*Moptophairshop
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I've done the ranting too! Makes you wonder how many lurkers are out there taking this in and biding their time to join in. I haven't until now as I didn't think I had much to add but felt it was time to show my support.

[quote RedtreesRedtrees]@scrimpshawthesecond We use a range of interrogation techniques From some of the comments on this thread you’d think my company was a Russian gulag. We are a thriving business with a diverse employee base and women in most of the top management roles (including our GC). We are not some kind of repressed subjugated group suffering at the hands of a tyrannical leader! But from that position of strength we don’t feel the need to repress or subjugate others and we strive to be inclusive. It is too apparent reading through some of the threads on here that in many instances GC serves as a cloak for transphobia (by which I mean a hatred and intolerance of trans people (before someone asks ). Sure people are always extremely careful to stay on the ‘right’ side of the line, but it doesn’t take a genius to read between the lines. It saddens me that the most vociferous proponents of this are stoking fears and divisions where none need exist. Every now and then the mask slips.

@Kit19 I’m not familiar with this term. Presumably a play on derailing? 🤷‍♀️[/quote]
Thanks for attempting to answer, Redtrees. But all you've done is tell me that you are happy with your company and what your aims are. They sound great, laudable and fair.

But what are the views that would have you sack someone? Could you please, and I am asking because I sincerely would like to know, spell out for those of us who are perhaps not as bright as the others on the board, what the views are that you would compel employees to 'seek employment elsewhere'? And how do you elicit these views?

Our company has a policy on diversity, etc. But it doesn't include requiring certain beliefs or views from our staff - I frankly don't think that's my business, as an employer. I have no desire to know the politics or opinions of my staff. I am happy to support all staff as best as possible, and ensure the work environment is safe and a comfortable place to work. But the employees' thoughts/views/opinions are their own.

PS hope you have fun with this one DM!

I don’t disagree with you @crumpet. However , everyone on this board chose to use this board and make their comments on it. No, you don’t choose your ‘employer’s’ policies, but that doesn’t mean they don’t need challenging as they are legally incorrect and disallowed.

@RedtreesRedtrees has missed the point. There is a commonality here because people with similar views have chosen to come to this board. A very different situation to having policies imposed on a person at work where there is little choice.

Sure there are people who don’t agree with GC views. They’ll mostly be on non-GC boards not here.