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It's still OK to say 'men' on tena products 😡

65 replies

Coronacurls · 17/07/2020 09:42

I took this photo in a pharmacy yesterday - I almost laughed at how big the word 'men' was on the packaging, and yet none of the other products dared say they were for women.
The obvious double standard just makes me so angry - the attempted erasure of the word 'woman' is just so obvious here.

It's still OK to say 'men' on tena products 😡
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SarahTancredi · 17/07/2020 11:26

They dont need to put "women/woman" on tampons and sanitary towels because to put it bluntly.. men dont have vaginas that bleed once a month

Men have periods dont you know.

Jk rowling was lynched when pointing out only women menstruate

CarlottaValdez · 17/07/2020 11:25

But why are you cross with Tena? They aren’t refusing to say women are they?

chelsea2704 · 17/07/2020 11:23

There are literally hundreds of thousands of people dying in the world why is this a problem 😂 1. They are marketed toward men.. hence MEN. 2. It is likely that as a whole men would require a different shaped incontinence pad than a lady so the specification is needed. 3. More common for a women to have incontinence due to childbirth so the product is 90% more of a womens product... and lastly 4. They dont need to put "women/woman" on tampons and sanitary towels because to put it bluntly.. men dont have vaginas that bleed once a month.

Iiketoreadeveryday · 17/07/2020 11:23

@Coronacurls

It's not Tena particularly, it's that it is fine to say 'men' in big letters, but no other product on the aisle, all of which are for women's biological needs, are allowed to say 'women' on them.

It's about the word 'woman' meaning 'adult human female'.

Maybe cause we know they are for us! I would sell these to older men half Blind and degraded to be buying tena men clearly labelled maybe for this reason no?! Not the sexist version sorry
Jumblebumblemess · 17/07/2020 11:21

We can't have the ejaculaters getting all in a tizz and getting the wrong product can we? Grin they have to spell it out nice and clear for them.

SarahTancredi · 17/07/2020 11:19

It's generally assumed pads are for women as PP have said

Not any more its not.

Some of the sex education packs include such phrases as " someone may become pregnant if the person with a vagina also has a womb" as if uts sone freak occurrence.

Our children are not being taught biological facts about their bodies. Inclusive language is deemed more important eveb though it erases the biogical reality of what happens to what person.

Stephanie davies-arai explains about this in her interview with Graham linehan

DidoLamenting · 17/07/2020 11:17

@Lifeisabeach09

Isn't putting 'men' on the packaging for a targeted audience though? It's generally assumed pads are for women as PP have said.
Yes- this is a non issue
vodkaredbullgirl · 17/07/2020 11:15

Glad im not the only one who thinks you been daft over the name Tena Men.

Lifeisabeach09 · 17/07/2020 11:15

Isn't putting 'men' on the packaging for a targeted audience though? It's generally assumed pads are for women as PP have said.

DidoLamenting · 17/07/2020 11:14

It's because they are making it clear that brand pack is directed to men as Tena is mainly associated with women and would be overlooked by guys. They are trying to make an obvious marketing choice. Nothing to do with Trans etc. Can you imagine our stupid it would be marketing tampons and having a blurb - "for women"!

Tena is a brand associated with women. It's a slightly embarrassing brand but I think "Tena Lady" , peeing when you laugh/ sneeze etc has entered in female culture sufficiently that "Tena Lady" is well known and women can joke about it and are unlikely to be bothered about being seen purchasing it. The need for Tena is not limited to older women- pregnancy can cause issues too.

I don't think that is the same for men. I don't see a problem with Tena clearly marking which products are for men.

GertrudeKerfuffle · 17/07/2020 11:13

Maybe you could start a campaign against their transphobic packaging OP? Perhaps they could rename them as 'Tena for Penis-Havers' or some such.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 17/07/2020 11:03

I’ve been in the position of having to buy these for my dad before his care home started providing them. Having MEN on the packaging helped him be a bit more accepting of wearing them. Also they are in the “Womens Health” isle, maybe they should be with the shaving foam instead?

If we live to a ripe old age we will probably all end up needing these.

Justhadathought · 17/07/2020 11:01

It's because they are making it clear that brand pack is directed to men as Tena is mainly associated with women and would be overlooked by guys. They are trying to make an obvious marketing choice. Nothing to do with Trans etc. Can you imagine our stupid it would be marketing tampons and having a blurb - "for women"

I think we're talking about the principle now, rather than this particular product. If 'feminine products' were to have any reference to females, women or girls removed from them for the purposes of 'inclusion' or political correctness; that would indeed be stupid. It would be entirely natural to have those words on the product.

But yes, in the case of Tena - incontinence pads are not something that people associate so much with men, that is why they have the word men on them. It is very common for men to become incontinent with age, of after prostate treatments.

frog22 · 17/07/2020 11:01

It is a double standard but surly against men. It comes across patronising that they need to be told in bold letters that it's for them.

SarahTancredi · 17/07/2020 10:59

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-51167487

^So everyone knows who they are for right??

Coronacurls · 17/07/2020 10:56

So why were Always hassled into removing the Venus/female symbol from their packaging?

It's all about men's feelings being more important than women's biological needs.

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SarahTancredi · 17/07/2020 10:55

And yet articles about period poverty fail fo mention girls even once.

You say its obvious but kids are being taught that some people have periods then they may well grow up with no idea who actually has them.

Actionaid just a few weeks ago were asking fir donations for period kits for girls as in Kenya etc girls drop out of school as they cabtmanage their periods and they never get the chance to get out of poverty.

Now apparently there's no such thing as a female body.

I dont think you realise quite how confused and fucked up our kids are on the way to becoming because if accurate language not being acceptable

Lougle · 17/07/2020 10:51

I don't think this is an issue. The default in sanitary/incontinence wear is that it's for women. What man is going to want to buy ladies incontinence products? So they are making it clear that they do a product for men.

I guess the only issue will be for intact transwomen. They would benefit from the product that is designed for penises but won't want to buy the product that is tena men.

Timmytoo · 17/07/2020 10:49

It's because they are making it clear that brand pack is directed to men as Tena is mainly associated with women and would be overlooked by guys. They are trying to make an obvious marketing choice. Nothing to do with Trans etc. Can you imagine our stupid it would be marketing tampons and having a blurb - "for women"!

FrolickingLemon · 17/07/2020 10:46

I've been raging about this since the turn of the year when I first noticed in Sainsburys.
Its unbelievable how many companies are going along with this shit. The world is a bubbling cesspit of misogyny more now than ever. The breaking / turning point has to come soon I hope.

SarahTancredi · 17/07/2020 10:46

Tena Lady are (I suppose) bought by older women? Who are less likely to be of the TWAW mindset

Would it surprise you to hear that none if these lobby groups are going to nursing homes to train the elderly in inclusion and diversity

Are they agest and think it would be a waste of time and that they wouldn't understand?

Or is it just more profitable to brainwash children so you have a steady stream if clients fir the next few decades

Coronacurls · 17/07/2020 10:46

It's not Tena particularly, it's that it is fine to say 'men' in big letters, but no other product on the aisle, all of which are for women's biological needs, are allowed to say 'women' on them.

It's about the word 'woman' meaning 'adult human female'.

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Justhadathought · 17/07/2020 10:44

*I genuinely confused why this is an issue? Maybe I need to educate myself! Why is it an issue? (No malice just interested).

It is the same with using the word CIS. If you are trans and comfortable in that, then there is nothing wrong with referring to yourself as what you are, which is TRANS. You don't get to re-name everyone else just to suit yourself or to validate yourself, or to centre yourself in the spaces that belong to another.

'Transwoman' and 'woman' is just fine, and it reflects reality.

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/07/2020 10:43

Bit garbled there I’m afraid.

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/07/2020 10:42

Tena Lady are (I suppose) bought by older women? Who are less likely to be of the TWAW mindset.

Tampons and pads are used by women and girls (and transmen and non binary females, as we are being inclusive) who are young enough to still menstruate- a different demographic maybe?

Could Tena simply be looking at their customer base and using language for them rather?