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Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female

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Apileofballyhoo · 15/07/2020 16:48

Has this been posted already? It's from an email they sent. I saw it on Twitter so I'll be back with links.

Action Aid - no such thing as a biological female
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littlbrowndog · 15/07/2020 17:52

But who will have the babies if there are no biological women 😉

wellbehavedwomen · 15/07/2020 17:51

@PennyNotSoWise

So does this mean girls in China and India are safe then? Since they biologically don’t exist? Of course they aren’t. They will still be murdered/abandoned/aborted for being a girl

Someone should let them know they can identify out of all of this. They'll be relieved to hear it, I'm sure, if not a little embarrassed that they didn't think of this sooner.

ActionAid should let girls everywhere know, actually. No more period huts, no more FGM, no more trafficking, no more forced marriage. Just say you're a boy/man and voila! Easy peasy.

This.

It's so... stupid. If biological sex doesn't exist, what are gay and lesbian people? How can we reproduce, if we don't know it takes a man and a woman? The whole thing is ludicrous. Just self-evidently not true! It's beyond belief.

Every single human being alive in the world today exists because biological sex determines women do all the reproductive labour. This is why women and girls are oppressed. Gender is how women and girls are oppressed.

They don't genitally mutilate girls because they dislike their expressed gender identity. They do it because they want to control female sexuality, and therefore reproduction.

This is so very basic. And it's everything women have been saying is wrong. The erasure of sex as a cause of abuse, discrimination and harm to women. It's misogyny in purest form, in fact.

SerenityNowwwww · 15/07/2020 17:51

@happydappy2

Have emailed them as well-over 10 years I've had a monthly payment to them but I will not continue to do so if this is true.
Please let us know 👍 or 👎
shadyzadie · 15/07/2020 17:50

Their 'help end period poverty' ads are all over my Facebook right now and make no mention of women and girls, only people.'

Soubriquet · 15/07/2020 17:50

Can I stop being a woman then and no longer have periods?

Cos if I can do that awesome! I’ll just switch them back on when I want a baby.

I would love for this to happen without needed contraception

happydappy2 · 15/07/2020 17:48

Have emailed them as well-over 10 years I've had a monthly payment to them but I will not continue to do so if this is true.

littlbrowndog · 15/07/2020 17:48

Well here we go. No women anymore. Awesome.

Wondering what I can become now women have been cancelled ?

FWRLurker · 15/07/2020 17:35

It’s weird because they are almost there when they acknowledge “trans men and non-binary (females) experience gender (sex) discrimination”

So, why Is it exactly that trans Men, non-binary females, and women would all experience discrimination as a group, Action Aid? Could it be possibly because of aN immutable characteristic they all share?

2Rebecca · 15/07/2020 17:35

Disappointed as Action Aid was one of the first charities I regularly subscribed to. I have stopped paying money to any charity that wants to pretend that sex is unimportant nonsense we shouldn't trouble our pretty little heads with.

ComDummings · 15/07/2020 17:35

I wonder if they truly believe this or they’re just looking for attention.

LonginesPrime · 15/07/2020 17:35

"as such, we've used the word gender not sex"

It sounds like they're saying the word 'sex' is meaningless as a descriptor. Confused

FWRLurker · 15/07/2020 17:33

“There is no such thing as a biological female/male.”

“No one is saying biology isn’t real!”

Has there ever been a clearer, real life example of double think / speak??

SunsetBeetch · 15/07/2020 17:31

Jesus FUCKING Christ.

PennyNotSoWise · 15/07/2020 17:27

So does this mean girls in China and India are safe then? Since they biologically don’t exist?
Of course they aren’t. They will still be murdered/abandoned/aborted for being a girl

Someone should let them know they can identify out of all of this. They'll be relieved to hear it, I'm sure, if not a little embarrassed that they didn't think of this sooner.

ActionAid should let girls everywhere know, actually. No more period huts, no more FGM, no more trafficking, no more forced marriage. Just say you're a boy/man and voila! Easy peasy.

RJnomore1 · 15/07/2020 17:20

It’s quite sad they boil biological sex down to genitalia when there’s so many other physical aspects to it.

CharlieParley · 15/07/2020 17:18

A proud declaration that they do not accept UK equality law.

Sex is a protected characteristic under UK law. It is defined as male or female.

How many other laws derived from international human rights can you imagine any organisation focused on human rights publicly disagreeing with?

whuttheactualeff · 15/07/2020 17:18

Gender and sex aren't the same. If your gender is female but not your sex then you can't expect to use 'single sex spaces'. The clue is in the name.

SerenityNowwwww · 15/07/2020 17:16

Do we know who was responsible for this? Was it a 14 year old work experience bod who was let loose on the twitter account or someone with authority?

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 15/07/2020 17:13

Yes, genitals don't define gender, but they do define our sex. Because, ya know, biology.

Apileofballyhoo · 15/07/2020 17:12

Well everyone on the Twitter thread is responding to @actionaiduk so if it's a fake it should be clarified quickly.

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whuttheactualeff · 15/07/2020 17:12

But... there's a literal genetic difference.

Women have XX chromosomes, men have XY chromosomes. How do they define that then?

TornadoOfSouls · 15/07/2020 17:11

I just rang them up - I wanted to confirm that this was real (!) I spoke to a very polite, helpful person who by her voice I’m pretty sure was a trans woman. She confirmed that this will be up on their website soon. She encouraged me to email [email protected]

I can see that a charity like this will need to work with men, boys & transgender men and women as part of their work. But can’t they do it without saying biological sex doesn’t exist? I feel like crying. Their stuff about period poverty is so good ... how can they do this?

Soubriquet · 15/07/2020 17:10

So does this mean girls in China and India are safe then? Since they biologically don’t exist?

Of course they aren’t. They will still be murdered/abandoned/aborted for being a girl

timetest · 15/07/2020 17:06

I can’t see this on their website. There is a lot about how poverty impacts the lives of women and girls. I hope it’s fake as I’ve been sending them money for years.