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The baroness issues a call to arms *title edited at requ of OP*

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Kit19 · 15/07/2020 09:38

And it looks like she wants to set up a campaigning group

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growinggreyer · 15/07/2020 11:53

@happydappy2 That is an excellent list. I would add, investigate the actual quality of education being provided in gender studies depts in universities throughout the UK. Is what is being taught in sync with the work that the biology dept etc teach. (hint, it isn't!)

RoyalCorgi · 15/07/2020 11:49

The Baroness talks about organising a Women's Rights movement for a year

I just find this really exasperating. WPUK was founded in September 2017 and in the space of just under three years has held dozens of packed-out meetings around the country, contributed to consultations, met with politicians, maintained a high social media profile and significantly changed the discourse on this topic. I very much welcome Nicholson's interest in and concern about the issue, but a good deal of the important work has already been done. We're not starting from scratch and, guess what, major change will take - has taken - more than a year.

risefromyourgrave · 15/07/2020 11:48

@risefromyourgrave

Oh this is excellent, I’m all the way in! *@PaleBlueMoonlight* Baroness Nicholson has tweeted the email [email protected], not sure if that’s the one you say looks like a general one?
Just realised I forgot to put the ‘e’ on the end of Nicholson for the email address, so ignore my post!
happydappy2 · 15/07/2020 11:48

I've emailed her. So much has happened under the radar it will take a lot of work to sort this mess out. We need people with clout to achieve the following

get men out of womens prisons
keep single sex spaces properly single sex (including Girl guides, Hampstead ladies pond, hospital wards)
womens only bathrooms (not mixed sex)
stop the teaching of gender identity in schools
stop the medical experimentation on children
defund mermaids & stonewall
stop crimes committed by men being recorded as if by women
get men out of womens sports when sex matters
Repeal or reform the GRA-no man should be given the legal status of woman
expand the bandwidth of being male so trans women are included in mens facilities, not forced into womens spaces
Stop the push to commercialise surrogacy

All this must be cemented in law so any incoming government can't simply change the rules (as I fear Labour would.)

There's probably more that I've missed?

TedsFederationRep · 15/07/2020 11:12

The Baroness talks about organising a Women's Rights movement for a year

The Baroness said only recently that even if Self ID is knocked on the head (I pray that it will be) and even if the law stops children from being rushed down the path of experimental medicalisation, institutional capture in government, councils, schools, retailers, refuges, you name it, is already so embedded that it would take a year or two of concerted action to clean up.

That's what I think she is referring to and that's why I've emailed, asking to join.

Liz Truss's announcement is due imminently as we know and although we can't know for sure what it will definitely say, it won't be the end. Just the beginning of the end.

justanotherneighinparadise · 15/07/2020 11:08

I’m in. I shall email her.

Daughterofmabel · 15/07/2020 11:04

WPUK are all about the trans. There's no hope there
Definatley not!

RoyalCorgi · 15/07/2020 11:02

There are already campaigning groups, though - Woman's Place UK and Fair Play for Women being the main two.

NonnyMouse1337 · 15/07/2020 11:01

Sorry I've not been following all the developments on Twitter. The Baroness talks about organising a Women's Rights movement for a year - does anyone know what is the rough action plan, what might be involved etc. She does have a lot of influence in the political side of things and has contacts, access to networks and knows how the system works. So what is the role of the other women joining in? What would we be likely to help with?

Apologies if the questions are very basic - I'm not exactly sure what's being discussed!

DorisLessingsCat · 15/07/2020 10:55

Sorry, yes, skim read. WEP UK are all TWAW.

WPUK are, I think, the closest to a universal women's rights movement but they (as I understand it) come from the left so some may feel they do not represent them? Personally IDGAF, we just need the best women for the job!

NeurotrashWarrior · 15/07/2020 10:53

Ooh are they? I'm v split as the greens are also doing this. Not sure who to join!

CaveMum · 15/07/2020 10:50

WEP are currently TWAW but there are moves to encourage GC women to sign up as they have upcoming internal elections which will be a chance to make the GC voices heard.

Chrestomanci3 · 15/07/2020 10:45

Is it the Baroness organising this? On Twitter it looks like she's copying in @worriedmumofone to all of the tweets sent to her saying they're in.

Kit19 · 15/07/2020 10:45

Ha! Yes I am sorry

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growinggreyer · 15/07/2020 10:38

Are people getting confused between Women's Place UK and the Women's Equality Party? WPUK does not seem to be in favour of TWAW. I think the Baroness has been sign-posted to the women's groups that are already active but she seems to be shying away from them.

highame · 15/07/2020 10:33

@dazzlinghaze

Have just replied saying I'm in!
Me too
BitchPeas · 15/07/2020 10:32

What have people said when they’ve emailed? I want to join but not on Twitter, seems a bit odd to send an email just saying, I’m in Grin

Kit19 · 15/07/2020 10:31

It’s the WPUK TWAW?

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DorisLessingsCat · 15/07/2020 10:30

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IHeartSusanDey · 15/07/2020 10:28

Just emailed. Have come off Twitter due to the poison from the woman haters pushing this, but really want to keep my involvement in speaking out.

dazzlinghaze · 15/07/2020 10:23

Have just replied saying I'm in!

TedsFederationRep · 15/07/2020 10:21

How would this be different to WPUK?

The Baroness has a role within Parliament itself and knows how to network effectively. Her letter about the proposed new RSE pack to the Education Secretary - headed "My dear Gavin" - was an absolute pearler.

I've no doubt she will have been, or will be, in touch with WPUK about this group.

I've just emailed and asked to join.

gardenbird48 · 15/07/2020 10:21

thanks for posting - I've just emailed her to support.

NeurotrashWarrior · 15/07/2020 10:14

I'm vety politically naive. How would this be different to WPUK?

I'm in I think but I'd like to know what it is.

Jeeeez · 15/07/2020 10:07

[email protected]

Here's her email address to join

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