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The baroness issues a call to arms *title edited at requ of OP*

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Kit19 · 15/07/2020 09:38

And it looks like she wants to set up a campaigning group

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TedsFederationRep · 15/07/2020 15:35

"Dear Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne" or "Dear Baroness Nicholson" or just "Dear Lady Nicholson".

Some members of the HoL have particular preferences. She's so non-nonsense, though, that I don't think she minds which.

Kit19 · 15/07/2020 15:32

Or lady Nicholson

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Kit19 · 15/07/2020 15:32

Your ladyship or dear baroness Nicholson

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PopperUppleton · 15/07/2020 15:30

How does one address a Baroness? I want to email her and join up to this army (don't do Twitter)

TedsFederationRep · 15/07/2020 14:18

It's [email protected]

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 15/07/2020 14:17

Has anyone managed to get a message through to the e-mail address given upthread?
I've been trying but keep getting the error message
"Address not found. Your message wasn't delivered to [email protected] because the address couldn't be found or is unable to receive email."
I checked her contact information on the UK parliament website and it says [email protected] which looks like it is for any member of the house of lords and does not go directly to Baroness Nicholson.

TedsFederationRep · 15/07/2020 14:16

it is going to take a concerted effort to remove gender ideology from a multitude of government policies and departments.

That's my view. Cleaning up is going to be a huge task. That's why I'm in.

I'm posting the Baroness's tweet in as many places as I can because this is an issue that has always transcended party politics.

BaronessSnippyPantsofCroneArmy · 15/07/2020 13:53

Women Uniting are a cross party group, formed from all the political pledge groups originally, and now liaise with almost every other major women's group. Here's their most recent press release (completely ignored by the media of course)

forwomen.scot/21/06/2020/women-uniting-press-release/

My impression is that the Baroness is looking to instigate a 'clean up' operation. Even if Liz Truss delivers everything we want, it is going to take a concerted effort to remove gender ideology from a multitude of government policies and departments. I think it will need a public inquiry.

Apileofballyhoo · 15/07/2020 13:50

I understand it as a single issue group based on only women are women. I don't know if WPUK are also a single issue group. Forgive my ignorance.

NonnyMouse1337 · 15/07/2020 13:41

Thanks for the explanation. There is merit in a broad coalition that can involve women of all political persuasions and none.

MsMarvellous · 15/07/2020 13:27

I replied on twitter and got an actual like from the actual baroness. I feel all warm and cosy.

MsMarvellous · 15/07/2020 13:27

I replied on twitter and got an actual like from the actual baroness. I feel all warm and cosy.

happydappy2 · 15/07/2020 13:12

The forced use of specific pro nouns is also extremely problematic for me....not being able to call a male a male, is a safeguarding nightmare. For a rape victim to have to testify against her attacker using female pro nouns is untenable. Preferred pro nouns is compelled speech. Not being able to use language to accurately describe the situation is a huge pert of the problem. Transexual male is accurate. Trans woman is misleading.

CaveMum · 15/07/2020 13:01

I don’t think the Baroness has political affiliation issues on this, several people have tweeted her asking if they can join even if they are Labour supporters and she has welcomed them.

It might be that a new movement with a political figurehead will carry more weight right now? There’s nothing to say that various groups like WPUK, FPFW, SSA, etc can’t all work together on this but it needs political muscle to drive it forward and the a Baroness brings that.

ValancyRedfern · 15/07/2020 12:50

WPUK are amazing. I wonder if the Baroness doesn't feel able to align with them as they are very much a left wing organisation? I wonder if they may also feel disinclined to unit with her for that reason. I think there is room for multiple organisations as long and they compliment and don't fight against each other.

Roseburn · 15/07/2020 12:41

Im not on twitter so I've emailed asking to join.

teawamutu · 15/07/2020 12:41

WPUK have been immense - this is a chance to really build a cross party consensus based on the progress they've already made.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 15/07/2020 12:33

I don't have Twitter so I will email her

highame · 15/07/2020 12:25

I think the agenda should be absolutely clear with no ambiguity and no pile ons. This is all a mess and needs some clear vision. Tagging on to an existing organisation or party which supports TWAW would be unforgivable. I think the Baroness has a clear idea about the parameters. Muddying the waters will not work. All women, all over the country, nothing less will do of all political persuasions.

I like many others am really angry with what has happened

BaronessSlighterThanThou · 15/07/2020 12:21

Just to be clear, I agree with everything you said happydappy2

endofthelinefinally · 15/07/2020 12:04

In my view it is a case of the more the merrier. As long as there is collaboration and communication. It is about reaching out and informing people of all political persuasions.
So many people are still in blissful ignorance.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/07/2020 11:59

Thing is, though, WPUK is left-leaning. Not a criticism - given what has been going on in Labour, it is wonderful to have a left-leaning RF group with union connections. But there is room for groups with more reach into Conservative politics too.

Yes, I agree. And hopefully there might be opportunities to collaborate on single issue stuff.

MrsNoah2020 · 15/07/2020 11:57

@RoyalCorgi

The Baroness talks about organising a Women's Rights movement for a year

I just find this really exasperating. WPUK was founded in September 2017 and in the space of just under three years has held dozens of packed-out meetings around the country, contributed to consultations, met with politicians, maintained a high social media profile and significantly changed the discourse on this topic. I very much welcome Nicholson's interest in and concern about the issue, but a good deal of the important work has already been done. We're not starting from scratch and, guess what, major change will take - has taken - more than a year.

Thing is, though, WPUK is left-leaning. Not a criticism - given what has been going on in Labour, it is wonderful to have a left-leaning RF group with union connections. But there is room for groups with more reach into Conservative politics too.
happydappy2 · 15/07/2020 11:57

To be specific, toilets, changing rooms, showers-anywhere women are undressing.

BaronessSlighterThanThou · 15/07/2020 11:54

womens only bathrooms..

We would need to build another bathroom in our house!

Of course I'm joking. But what I'm also doing is playfully pointing out that here we call them toilets.

Are you American?

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