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2fallsagain · 14/07/2020 16:51

Hi everyone,

We haven't bee around much on MN recently, we have been a tad busy. We are doing lots of work behind the scenes as well as constantly working on new resources for parents, writing to MPs, helping people who contact us directly and supporting teenage girls in taking legal action. And we have all been juggling work and homeschooling our kids along with the rest of the nation.

Here is a useful 'update thread for those who don't know us.

Recently we wrote to Asda following The DRM debacle and had a somewhat conciliatory response. None of our direct questions were answered though.

Are inbox is full of parents sharing their concerns about the new RSE curriculum. We wrote to Gavin Williamson to share these concerns. If you also want to write, please feel free to use our letter. We shared just a few examples from a number of organisations selling training and materials to school, apparently unchecked by any government department. This is a serious oversight in Safeguarding.

One of our members wrote to her labour MP, we would really appreciate it if other with Labour MPs shared a version of what she sent as it covers all the issues. We have been dismayed by
Labour's willingness to set aside the rights of women and the safeguarding of children.

We have also been disappointed with the teaching unions failure to safeguarding child and so wrote to the NAHT who told us that they wouldn't be replying to us in 14 days because they were too busy.

A new resource people may have missed was our critique of Stonewall's home learning pack. Its clearly damning.

Our spokeswoman Tanya spoke to Sonia Poulton about what's going on in schools and what people can actually do to ensure safeguarding is put at the heart of all school policies. If you prefer to watch rather than read, you can get an easy run down in around 10 minutes.

Some of our supporters (well one woman in particular has been on a mission but she has had some backup) has been busy writing to LEA using our template letter to let them know the Oxfordshire Trans Toolkit written with Allsorts had been withdrawn pending legal challenge. You can see how many councils are backing down here. Use the list of councils which have withdrawn guidance to ensure its not still in your schools.

The legal cases are not over either. The case against the CPS is still live and we will have more news to share shortly. The case against Oxfordshire has been resolved (although OCC is still a Stonewall champion, the battle has not yet been won) and they agreed to pay a proportion of costs. That means there is some money in the fund to help support similar legal action.

There is loads more so please make sure you are following us on our social media. Twitter and Facebook

If anyone wants to get more directly involved we always have a really long to do list and not enough hands so please feel free to DM me.

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GayGrandma · 15/07/2020 09:36

Well done, SSAUK. So much achieved in such a short space of time, and yet still so much more to do. I really hope parents start taking this on board soon and recognise the truth in what you say. Far too many think they know more than you do about this issue and put up ridiculous arguments against you. Being woke is not a virtue; it is abuse.
Thank you everyone at SSAUK.

2fallsagain · 15/07/2020 09:35

Just a shout out to the lurkers. Our web stats saw a significant rise in traffic yesterday. So if you clicked and didn't post, thank you! You made our website manager very happy!

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sultanasofa · 15/07/2020 08:09

Amazing work, thank you so much for everything you are doing. You are inspirational.

PIKNIK20 · 15/07/2020 05:06

Great work. So much fantastic and brave thinking involved. You, JKR, and so many others WILL turn the tide

SerenityNowwwww · 14/07/2020 23:24

👏 👏 👏

nonsenceagain · 14/07/2020 22:54

Thank you so much. Your resources have been fantastic.

lionheart · 14/07/2020 21:22

Thank you.

2fallsagain · 14/07/2020 21:16

Thanks everyone. Our sole focus is on safeguarding children and to ensure safeguarding is at the heart of all school policies. We are delighted our message is getting out there and parents and teachers are finding our resources useful.

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Pudmyboy · 14/07/2020 21:15

Thank you, I do worry about the way this is being sneakily (to my mind) promoted in schools yet the SSA page and links show this has not gone unnoticed and unchallenged. Your resources are great!

hoodathunkit · 14/07/2020 20:44

Hood have you actually listened to what Tanya said?

No, not yet.

I have no problem with Tanya and do not know her.

I am familiar with the work of the SSA and appreciate their work.

The fact that they have hooked up with SP and have a video on her channel is deeply concerning.

SP's long term association with Bill Maloney is just shocking.

Maloney's "documentary" Sun Sea and Satanism here. for those who can bear to watch this ridiculous nonsense

Readers can make their own minds up about it.

FWIW if the SSA was not so important and doing such good work I wouldn't care as much about the association with SP

I will do further research and report back

hoodathunkit · 14/07/2020 20:37

Sorry OP

I think you do great work, but Sonia Poulton?

The woman is a long time promoter of batshit conspiracy theories about satanic ritual abuse and is closely associated with extremely dubious individuals who also promote this nonsense.

Check out her video here with Shaun Attwood, a former ecstasy dealer whose story was told on the TV programme Locked Up Abroad - the eisode was called Raving Arizona. Sean had / has? significant contacts with very evil people in the Mexican cartels.

Now he runs a conspiracy based youtube channel where he recently interviewed David Icke (the video was removed by YouTube), the fake police whistleblower, SRA conspiracy promoter and pimp apologist Jon Wedger and various other dubious people.

Anyway, check the video below at 4.55 where Sonia starts by declaring that she believes in the Law of Attraction, how she "talks to the universe", how she was born to a medium and grew up around a seance table.

She says "I understand about the things you can summon" before going off on one about satanists summoning up evil forces and other stuff.

She then praises the disgusting book "The Truth of the Lie" in which a former Portuguese cop blames the McCanns for Madaleine's disappearance.

Poulton was a long time associate of the late SRA hoaxer Robert Green. Green was jailed for destroying the lives of innocent people by making false accusations of SRA.

You can read about Robert Green's crimes here

www.heraldscotland.com/news/13062006.one-devastating-fantasy-the-impact-of-an-internet-scandal/

I strongly recommend that you research Poulton's past association and activities with Robert Green and her current association with Shaun Attwood

Polton is also an associate of the much debunked and widely ridiculed hoaxer and SRA conspiracy theorist Bill Maloney

You can see them together in this video

You may also find this interesting

www.imdb.com/title/tt12269744/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

Apologies for being critical, you do some excellent work, but I strongly suggest that you research Poulton's current and past activities and conduct due diligence before getting further involved with Poulton

2fallsagain · 14/07/2020 19:52

Hood have you actually listened to what Tanya said?

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FemaleAndLearning · 14/07/2020 19:40

I've found the SSA resources so helpful in writing to my primary school and meeting the head. SSA gave me the confidence to stride forward and challenge the school. My eyes are now wide open.
Thank you for working so hard to safe guard our children.

CaveMum · 14/07/2020 19:34

Thank you for your great work.

hoodathunkit · 14/07/2020 19:27

"Our spokeswoman Tanya spoke to Sonia Poulton"

Was David Icke unavailable or something?

Seriously what were you thinking?

Newuser123123 · 14/07/2020 19:17

Thank you for everything you are doing x

ThatsHowWeRowl · 14/07/2020 19:15

Oh wow, thank you so much! This has now reached my kids primary school and I have voiced concerns about how gender identity can be taught to kids without relying I stereotypes and am waiting to hear back. It's the first time I have ever spoken out on this! But I do feel it's a bit futile talking to the school as this stuff is coming from higher up, so am looking into what else I can do, so this is really helpful.

SunsetBeetch · 14/07/2020 18:51

Thank you so much for all you've done so far. I'll be supporting you whenever I can.

HandsOffMyRights · 14/07/2020 18:51

Thanks so much.

My son's school uses both DRM and Stonewall. I did send a detailed complaint, but the head is standing by them.

At work I see a young gay male teacher inspired by Moffatt and Sean Dellenty (hope the latter is on your radar too) and pushing their regressive resources at parents. He's concerned over homophobia and transphobia, but there's no mention of sexism.
The whole Trust is on the verge of using No Outsiders.
Moffatt is being heavily promoted to SLTs and education leaders across Birmingham and Warwickshire. Still.

There is much to do, but your actions, templates and determination inspire us all.

Cuntysnark · 14/07/2020 18:44

Great work! I just hope their tactics don’t become more devious & less transparent.

hungryhippo · 14/07/2020 18:40

Barnsley, Birmingham, Ceredigion, Denbighshire, Derbyshire, Doncaster, Essex, Flintshire, Hertfordshire, Kent, Leicester, Merthyr Tydfil, Oxfordshire, Shropshire, Somerset, Warwickshire and Wrexham have withdrawn their guidance as of 14/07/20.

Jeeeez · 14/07/2020 18:30

I am adding v2 of the Genderbread Person to my letter as it's such a pile of woo sh*t that it instantly proves what drivel they're 'teaching' kids.

2fallsagain · 14/07/2020 18:24

First link doesn't work. Sorry. It's here: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1281595839828328448?s=20

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SarahTancredi · 14/07/2020 18:24

You are amazing.

Thank you SmileFlowers

highame · 14/07/2020 18:21

thanks 2falls

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