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The Speccie

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midclegs · 13/07/2020 22:43

Are hiring. So many of you are brilliant writers so thought I would share.

I'm reading The Spectator is growing - and hiring via the Spectator app app.spectator.co.uk/2020/07/10/the-spectator-is-growing-and-hiring/content.html

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nauticant · 15/07/2020 14:24

People like Owen Jones are usually symptoms rather than causes.

I wonder how many people here now have subscriptions to The Times as a result of them enabling the sharing of articles to non-subscribers. It hooked me.

JamieLeeCurtains · 15/07/2020 14:16

The Guardian has really changed. I think Owen Jones has a lot to answer for. It's said that the culture there is toxic and his name keeps cropping up.

Like the BBC, there is too much enmeshment with Twitter culture 'purity' and not enough with reality and journalistic freedom and quality.

See also: New York Times, resignation of Bari Weiss.

EmpressoftheMundane · 15/07/2020 14:09

They have really caught my attention during lockdown and the BLM protests.

They come across as reasoned and thoughtful. I’ve been very disappointed by the BBC who have seemed superficial and lazy.

DidoLamenting · 15/07/2020 14:07

@Billi77

I love when people try and make a far right propagandist mag sound cute by calling it ‘The Speccie’
That is patently nonsense. The Spectator is mainstream U.K Conservative and conservative thinking.

It does however amuse me, having long given up being a lefty, to see the praise being heaped on media outlets such as The Spectator, The Times, Spiked and even The Daily Mail , previously considered pariahs by MN liberals.

Now these outlets are being praised because of their commitment to not being shut up and discussing issues the lefty/ liberal media either don't or do so or in a biased manner. These media outlets always did of course but there's none as blind as a liberal who knows she has right on her side.

Goosefoot · 15/07/2020 14:03

@MsSafina

The Guardian and NYT are now full on Maoist publications. Their articles read like struggle sessions of the CCP circa 1973. Unsurprising, as BLM and their ilk are just run of the mill Maoists and Trots.
I understand where you are coming from here.

But both do zero to create an opportunity to reflect on real economic inequality and it's causes. All the identity stuff is a distraction for that.

They are very much petite bourgeoisie publications.

Michelleoftheresistance · 15/07/2020 14:01

Douglas Murray tweeted a few days ago that their readership is now higher than the FT and The Guardian.

Wow, well done them! Wine

Well deserved too, their articles are excellent. Far deeper in content and actual journalism than most printed papers these days.

DidoLamenting · 15/07/2020 13:57

@Wasabiaddiction

Online reach is higher at the Guardian because it is free. A paywall would kill them
It absolutely would. I pay for access to The Times and The Spectator. I buy print editions of the Friday Guardian for arts review and the Saturday one for book reviews and recipes but I wouldn't miss anything else in The Guardian.

Until a couple of years ago I bought the print edition every day.

JamieLeeCurtains · 15/07/2020 13:56

Fascinating that the Spectator's readership is increasing. I wonder how many new readers came via MN FWR. I did.

LillianBland · 15/07/2020 13:55

@Billi77

I love when people try and make a far right propagandist mag sound cute by calling it ‘The Speccie’
I love it that you feel so threatened by the truth, you have to accuse a paper of being a far right propagandist mag. Watch out pet, the next thing you know, your misogyny will be showing.
GingerPCatt · 15/07/2020 13:51

@AbsintheFriends

I'd love to see RedToothbrush's writing published for a wider audience. If it isn't already. (Though actually, we know that MN FWR does have a massive audience.)
I agree. I find myself nodding along and the look at the username and I know it's RTB. I think she's brilliant on FWR and the brexshit threads.
7Days · 15/07/2020 13:51

I feel like I should name checkmany of the clear sighted articulate posters on here, but RedToothbrush really does stand out, for her comments on the Brexit board too.

MsSafina · 15/07/2020 13:45

The Guardian and NYT are now full on Maoist publications. Their articles read like struggle sessions of the CCP circa 1973. Unsurprising, as BLM and their ilk are just run of the mill Maoists and Trots.

AbsintheFriends · 15/07/2020 13:11

I'd love to see RedToothbrush's writing published for a wider audience. If it isn't already. (Though actually, we know that MN FWR does have a massive audience.)

Wasabiaddiction · 15/07/2020 13:06

Online reach is higher at the Guardian because it is free. A paywall would kill them

RoyalCorgi · 15/07/2020 13:01

Douglas Murray tweeted a few days ago that their readership is now higher than the FT and The Guardian.

That's not entirely true, though. The Guardian's print circulation is indeed tiny, and smaller than the Speccie's. But its online reach is huge - one of the most widely-read news sites in the world.

TorkTorkBam · 15/07/2020 12:50

@Billi77

I love when people try and make a far right propagandist mag sound cute by calling it ‘The Speccie’
I love it when zealots' ideas are so weak they try use daft lies to keep people away from even reading about heretical ideas.

Do they eat babies too at The Spectator?

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midclegs · 15/07/2020 12:41

Billi did you know that only 2 of the writers for the Speccie are full-time staff? The rest on commission. With no editorial strong-hold. I think that makes them far more liberal than the Guardian - who like the New York Times are being held accountable by the angry mobs on twitter.

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highame · 15/07/2020 11:06

forgot to finish......intelligent, thoughtful, well researched work

highame · 15/07/2020 11:05

I love when people try and make a far right propagandist mag sound cute by calling it ‘The Speccie’

The left have been peddling the BS that they have the moral high ground and the intelligence, for years. I fell for it and lots of other people too but the assault on women from the left has opened my eyes and made me look elsewhere and I have been staggered by what I have found

MsSafina · 15/07/2020 10:56

Far right is a ridiculous assertion. They also publish articles by Nick Cohen and Robert Peston.

EdgeOfACoin · 15/07/2020 10:31

"Far right"?

Billi77 · 15/07/2020 10:28

I love when people try and make a far right propagandist mag sound cute by calling it ‘The Speccie’

MsSafina · 15/07/2020 09:46

The Speccie is one of the few media outlets allowing BTL comments without heavy handed censorship.

Binglebong · 15/07/2020 01:33

Yes, Datun was first to come to mind but add on Rowan, Lang, Bewilderness and so so many others.

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midclegs · 14/07/2020 23:43

And you too Nonny!

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