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Miriam Margolyes being a massive transphobe

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mintkoala · 13/07/2020 11:58

She's criticising JKR - calling her conservative. Then she says, 'If you seriously want to be a woman you should be allowed to'. I think she imagines she can decide who 'seriously' wants to be a woman, rather than having to accept anyone who wants to identify.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 13/07/2020 13:38

I swear the woman posting the Jim Davidson is a clever troll...!

SerenityNowwwww · 13/07/2020 13:37

@HandsOffMyRights

Disappointed when women who are old enough to get it, don't. Same with Shirley Manson.
These are women in the entertainment business. Handle ‘general public’ mixing with us ordinary folks on our ordinary worlds.
JemimaShore · 13/07/2020 13:35

I think Jim Davidson would be a perfect patron for Mermaids. He is one of the bitterest men I have ever come across.

He was caught cheating on his wife, so she left him. He takes no responsibility for his own actions here - but blames the Newspapers who reported it. He's still be married if it wasn't for those papers reporting it...

And of course, when it comes to taking sides - natal males "wanting" to be women will always have Jim's vote - over actual women who say, well, fine, wear dresses & makeup if you like, but you're not really women though, are you. See also: Billy Bragg, Owen Jones, beardy woke-bros.

bishopgiggles · 13/07/2020 13:34

@mintkoala

It's transphobic because she's suggesting that a transwoman can become a woman under certain conditions, and the trans rights position is that they become a woman because they say so. She is implying that she, as a woman, can gatekeep womanhood.
She didn't say that in the quote in your op though, just the bit you went on to "imagine"! Her quote is very much twaw!
HandsOffMyRights · 13/07/2020 13:34

So as a lesbian, is she ok that lesbians are frequently told to accept males as sexual partners?

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/07/2020 13:33

How often do mermaids get to RT the comments of anyone with actual respect in the field? I don't follow them but do they rt evidence and statistics?

I mean, Jesus, relying on semi famous actors and comic has beans isn't exactly a pr boost for the charity.

nauticant · 13/07/2020 13:31

Every single actor in the UK can come of and loudly declared their allegiance to Mermaids and I'll still be wholly opposed to putting children on a medical pathway to sterilisation and little to no sexual function and allowing intact males into women's prisons.

HandsOffMyRights · 13/07/2020 13:30

Disappointed when women who are old enough to get it, don't.
Same with Shirley Manson.

mintkoala · 13/07/2020 13:30

It's transphobic because she's suggesting that a transwoman can become a woman under certain conditions, and the trans rights position is that they become a woman because they say so. She is implying that she, as a woman, can gatekeep womanhood.

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MillyDilly · 13/07/2020 13:28

Miriam Margolyes is a twat anyway. I don’t know why these actors think the world needs to listen to their ridiculous bleatings.

PumbaasCucumbas · 13/07/2020 13:27

Didn’t she kind of say she hoped Boris would die of coronavirus on the last leg (while he was in hospital)?

No. Filter.

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/07/2020 13:27

🙄

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/07/2020 13:27

And there's tonnes of people saying "jk isn't a scientist..."

Yeah, cos obviously Jim Davidson and Miriam Margoyles are well up there among the Nobel prize winners for science.

Disfordarkchocolate · 13/07/2020 13:23

She deeply unpleasant and revels in the discomfort it causes other people. Not someone worth listening to.

Abhannmor · 13/07/2020 13:13

Israel plotted against Corbyn on film and it was televised so in that instance Miriam can't be faulted. Doesn't make her right on the trans issue

MyGhastIsFlabbered · 13/07/2020 13:12

If she's saying be who you want to be, how is that transphobic? Am I missing something?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2020 13:11

Apparently Jim is a trans ally. Amongst joshing about his White Privilege breakfast and digs at BLM and ‘lefties’ he expressed his support for TransWomen and how brave they must be.

That's hilarious.

acatcalledjohn · 13/07/2020 13:08

Apparently Jim is a trans ally. Amongst joshing about his White Privilege breakfast and digs at BLM and ‘lefties’ he expressed his support for TransWomen and how brave they must be. It’s a bizarrely screwed up rant as per from Mr Davidson but I did chuckle to myself that someone had chosen to post it on a Mermaids thread. Maybe they’ll approach him to be a patron? Although to be fair I think his allegiances lie with TransWomen rather then Transmen (Oh what a surprise!)

Woe betide any non white transwoman. He won't like that.

You must be desperately clutching at straws to quote Jim Davidson in support of anything. Misogynist, racist...

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/07/2020 13:06

'If you seriously want to be a woman you should be allowed to'

What does that mean, though? How is that meant to work? It's not like you can go on a course and get your official License To Woman at the end of it.

AbsintheFriends · 13/07/2020 13:04

She describes herself as 'a massive dyke' and also tells the story of the Oxford don who tutored her when she was 17 who wore stockings under his trousers and called himself Agatha. “I thought he was going to tell me he was in love with me, but he said, ‘I want to be a woman. I was always meant to be a woman.’ I have had always that quality that people have thought they can talk to me and I think I had it then. He was a darling man and he was married but he wanted to be a woman . . . He said, ‘I want to cut this pole off.’”

As a 'massive dyke' I wonder how Miriam would have felt if he had declared himself to be in love with her? Would she have considered 'Agatha' as partner, or fallen in love with them? If not, why not Miriam? And should young lesbians today be able to reject partners like 'Agatha'? (It's notable that she misgenders this 'darling man' who was 'always meant to be a woman' throughout, revealing that she doesn't for a second think of him as female. Tut tut, such transphobia.)

RealisticRay · 13/07/2020 13:03

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Miriam Margolyes being a massive transphobe
RealisticRay · 13/07/2020 13:01

Have a look at The Mermaids tweet thanking her for her support. 12th comment down is someone called Stephanie who obviously is a bit of a Jim Davidson fan and happened to be watching his YouTube channel.

Apparently Jim is a trans ally. Amongst joshing about his White Privilege breakfast and digs at BLM and ‘lefties’ he expressed his support for TransWomen and how brave they must be. It’s a bizarrely screwed up rant as per from Mr Davidson but I did chuckle to myself that someone had chosen to post it on a Mermaids thread. Maybe they’ll approach him to be a patron? Although to be fair I think his allegiances lie with TransWomen rather then Transmen (Oh what a surprise!)

I’m not linking to his video but it’s there on the thread (for now!) if you care to see the context of his comments it’s 10 minutes in (not 5 as the attached screen grab states) when he talks about the BLM and Pride marches in Brighton.

Can this get any more surreal?!

endofthelinefinally · 13/07/2020 12:31

"Since when did actors give anything any thought? Acting is a skill not an academic science"

Yes.

MaMaLa321 · 13/07/2020 12:30

I'm always amazed at how much bandwidth is given to actors. As though being an actor means that you're possessing much intelligence. Jonathan Pie did a great thing on this in one of his earlier videos.

Plus MM has always been an especially 'look at meee' person, like an annoying child at a party.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2020 12:25

Yes I agree. There aren't many actors I look to for incisive analysis of current affairs, any more than I would the man next to me in the bus queue.

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