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Staff revolt as 'non-feminist' weapons firm CEO hired to run Refuge

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stumbledin · 12/07/2020 00:08

Britain's best known domestic violence charity is in turmoil over the appointment of a woman who runs a weapons technology company as its new chairman.

The senior management team at Refuge are demanding the resignation of Hetti Barkworth-Nanton over her role as chief executive of a Ministry of Defence spin-off company that has developed silent ammunition, hand grenades and a new type of explosive.

In a whistle-blowing letter, seen by The Daily Telegraph, senior Refuge staff warned that her appointment would damage the “reputation and financial well-being” of the charity.

Mrs Barkworth-Nanton is the chief executive of Ploughshare Innovations Ltd, based at Porton Down in Wiltshire, which sells “defence and security technologies” developed in MoD laboratories.

Refuge staff say her involvement in the arms trade is incompatible with a domestic violence charity that abhors violence.

They also accuse her of not being a feminist and of trying to “impose radical change” on a charity “at the height of its reputation”.

In a private report, seen by The Telegraph, Dame Stella Rimington, the former MI5 head and a former Refuge trustee, criticised its board for appointing Mrs Barkworth-Nanton without making “more effort to keep the management team on side” and failing to appreciate the extent of the risk caused.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/11/staff-revolt-non-feminist-weapons-firm-boss-hired-run-domestic/

(Dont have access to entire article but am gob smacked not just by the new Chair being CEO of an arms firm but that Stella Rimington MI5 also involved. Pot? kettle?)

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Shmurf · 14/07/2020 03:55

I am genuinely shocked that some on this thread seem to think not being a feminist isn't an issue if you are part of an organisation like Refuge.

Well, the vast majority of women aren't, so you could argue that they might identify better with a non feminist.

I'm more frustrated by people who look down their noses at military technology whilst benefiting from the protections/deterrent it provides our society. Also, how it's 'left to the men' to sort, which doesn't really help counter the view of women as weak and helpless.

ShinyFootball · 14/07/2020 02:54

Lol at the idea that this thread equates to trying to bully a woman out of her job Grin

We're just chatting. No one is sending her threats or getting gangs of people to write to them!

The high horse comment made me twitch.
Men have said that to me to shut me up. Is it often directed at men?

Anyway I agree with op.

The weapons trade is responsible for untold misery around the world which impacts women and children disproportionately.

I'm sure the woman in question cares.

But it's a conflict of interests and inappropriate as far as I'm concerned.

Alisonjabub · 14/07/2020 00:40

Another totally incoherent stance from 'feminists'. A women who's risen to a top position of CEO in what i imagine is a male dominated work space, told she no longer 'fits in' with other women so should leave.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/07/2020 00:25

Climb down off your high horse, StumbledIn. I am a victim/survivor of DV so it's not academic to me. As was another pp who said the same as me.

I specifically said that I needed more information to know why it was a problem that this specific woman could not be Chair. Which you have now given. However I do think it's good for people to have real life experience of DV to work in this area, not to just be "feminists" (and we all know how much that term has been traduced). So I stand by what I said.

I'm afraid I don't put as much faith in the women's sector as you do. I think there is a massive problem with wokeness and the merry go round of people working in charities, which other people have mentioned and you acknowledged you might be out of touch with.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 13/07/2020 23:48

God, so many typos, Wine has been taken.

The comment that the new chair doesn't describe herself as feminist has just jumped out at me though OP, and I agree that's very disturbing.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 13/07/2020 23:44

Erin Pizzey isn't the problem with Refuge, she hasn't been near the place since the 80's. It's really disingenuous to suggest her - admittedly anti-feminist - work since then has influenced the practice and philosophy since then, I remember reading a guardian interview with her which basically said no one from 'the movement' had been near her for the past 20 years.

Sandra Horley earns a shed-load of money and has been accused of bad leadership, bullying and cronyism.

Corporate trustees bring experience of dealing with budgets and grants into the millions. I agree that defence and feminism aren't natural partners, but I also expect the selection committee were looking for a particular skill set... which brings me to the real issue, which is the way charities in England (specifically) are pitted against each other for funding and the criteria are used. I absolutely agree it's ridiculous that Refuge's volunteer model won the national helpline contract, taking jobs away from the sector and from the skilled, dedicated women that manned helplines. But that's not Refuge's fault - that's the fault of the system that applies commercial values to charitable endeavours. In which case, you can't blame charities for appointing commercial experts to their boards.

The whole system is rotten, but that comes from govt not charities.

stumbledin · 13/07/2020 23:26

Someone has posted these on facebook from a group that allows employees to rate their employer!

Charity in crisis thanks to useless trustees New chair Mrs Barkworth-Nanton and rest of the trustees are out of touch with what we do. Chair held staff meetings and rubbished us being a feminist organisation. Bragged we were lucky to have her as chair. Boasted as CEO of a company that makes technology sold for use in armed conflict around the world, instead of entire villages being bombed out, only part were now. Well, that's ok then isn't it? We are a non violent charity. We support women and children some have been raped and tortured in conflict. Deranged board. Advice to Management Please help staff - this board is a nightmare. - Tragically, new chair Hetti-Barkworth Nanton does not describe herself as feminist, one of our core values. Equally disturbing, she is CEO of Ploughshare Innovations, a company that profits from the weapons industry. Asked last week how that squares with being chair of an anti-violence charity, she said she didn’t particularly like the weapons side of Ploughshare’s work, but nowadays, instead of blowing up whole villages, they had new technology that only blows up some of the village! Advice to Management A corporate, privileged board has taken control of Refuge - arrogant, patronising, blindly confident they will ‘fix us’ – it’s like being in the grip of an occupying force. They should go.

Me and many of my team are really worried about the new chair. Most of us are in this work as we are feminists committed to gender equality, and have strong ethical principals. The fact that she has said that it is not important that she or the board are feminists, and her background as a CEO in the weapons industry are really troubling for me. Having met her I get the feeling that she really wants to make her mark, and given her values I do fear for the future of the organisation now. I would have really recommended this as a place to work, but now I would say maybe wait and see.
Advice to Management
Refuge needs to have a strong board and leadership that has feminism and anti violence at it's heart.
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I was totally blind-sighted by the newly appointed chair - Hetti-Barkworth Nanton of Ploughshare Innovations Limited. This in itself seems to directly oppose the very ethos of Refuge on a number of levels; primarily any connection to the weapons industry is not compatible when we know that the biggest victims in any war / conflict is always women and children … women and children, the group that Refuge has fought to support so passionately since the 1970’s. Hetti-Barkworth Nanton has publicly stated that she is not a feminist; Refuge has a solid behaviours framework in place which strongly reinforces the necessity of having a feminist ethos at the heart of the organisation.

Refuge is a unique organisation, many of the staff like myself are survivors of abuse and to hear comments such as 'Refuge will be obsolete in 10 years and she has come to 'fix us' is deeply upsetting and insulting. Please do not allow the very heart and soul to be torn from the organisation ... Stand together, stand firm, stand in unity like all brave women have done throughout feminist history to support each other, support our CEO Sandra Horley and get back to what we are amazing at ... empowering each other !!

I’m shocked by the appointment of chair Hetti Barkworth-Nanton on 1 June. She is CEO of Ploughshare Innovations – which develops weaponry. At an all staff meeting she told us that nowadays weapons were less destructive – instead of ‘blowing up an entire village the weapons would only blow up part of it’. Refuge is about anti-violence! And the consequences of war go far beyond weapons – much sexual violence against women is associated with conflict. Many of us are survivors – what about the impact on us and our clients? Hetti also openly says she isn’t a feminist – a core value of Refuge’s. If you’re thinking about joining Refuge be warned as this seems to have been brushed under the carpet.

it is heartbreaking to hear the newly appointed chair Hetti is a non feminist and is CEO of company that sells weapon. i feel this is unforgivable which is exist to end violence against women, girls and children to have a chair who is CEO of organisation acknowledges that her company bombs the villages but justifies that bombs half the village. it is insulting to hear that she says Refuge will be Obsolete in 10 years and she has come to change the organisation . Refuge is a great organisation with feminist values of equality and empowerment provides high quality service . the organisation has grown year on year and is the largest provider in this flied as a result of having fantastic team and strong leadership to hear new chair wanting to change the organisation is very worrying for staff and service users and donors
Advice to Management
Refuge is an organisation to end violence against women and girls and children how is it possible to have a chair who is CEO of company selling weapon ? she in non feminist and wants to change organisation ! this can not be happening ,

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Comment pre appointment of new chair:

your views, your experience don't matter. you are a cog in Sandra Horley's money and fame mongering machine, you are here to be exploited and treated with utter contempt. they will exploit you because you are a woman and because you care about protecting women and children. this is misogyny. expect this treatment amplified by 100 if you are BAME.

www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Refuge-Reviews-E743837_P2.htm

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stumbledin · 13/07/2020 17:58

Give me a break - all sorts of people are moved by personally experiences and are usually the worst people to set up a professional service.

Some individual's idea of what the best sort of response to someone facing domestic violence is not informed by professional practice, which is what refuge gets it money for. Not some individual wearing her heart of her sleeve.

She is not qualified.

Defending feminist principles and actions are the exact opposite of being woke.

The staff have said she is a problem to their work practice.

If she is alienating the staff something is really wrong.

And not to support them it getting this sorted is working against the women who need the actual workers not some do gooder building up her good works CV to counteract her paid work.

It would be nice to think that on a FWR board women would support women on the frontline.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2020 17:46

This isn't an episode of Dragons Den
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No one is saying it is. But this woman does seem to have a reason for becoming a DV campaigner, as her best friend was brutally murdered by her husband, so I'm not sure why she should be automatically barred from this role, for reasons others have pointed out.

It entirely depends on her actions for me, not some knee jerk woke purity spiral. Plenty of people who work in refuges are contributing to a world in which there will no longer be female spaces, so I'm not assuming they're definitely correct on everything. We need more details on exactly what the issue is here.

stumbledin · 13/07/2020 14:35

Its not a "pile on". This is about feminist practice and trying to keep it intact. Not about individuals women who have worked with the system.

It is about the women who need to know the organisation they go to will act on principle and not on some clever financial twist.

If the staff are raising concerns that's enough for me.

If a FWR board cant support women at the bottom end of the pecking order sticking their necks out on a matter of feminist principle what is the point of it.

This isn't an episode of Dragons Den.

Though of course these types of comments illustrate why mission drift in support services happen so easily.

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Binterested · 13/07/2020 08:36

She clearly knows male violence and oppression when she sees it and wants to do something about it.

Binterested · 13/07/2020 08:35

I don’t think anyone has said they don’t think she needs to be a feminist. Although many women don’t call themselves feminists and still fight for women. I wouldn’t die in a ditch over that.

IrenetheQuaint · 13/07/2020 08:24

Is she really not a feminist or is that just an accusation being thrown at her?

Pretty normal to have people from corporate backgrounds becoming chairs of charities to keep the governance strong. Agree the defence industry is loathsome, though, so I can see why there is unhappiness.

jay55 · 13/07/2020 08:16

A woman who has risen to the top of such a male dominated sector, will no doubt have come up against every rule of misogyny on the way. This pile on just seems like more of it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2020 01:57

I'm a DV survivor.

My immediate concern reading this was noting an attempt to bully and coerce a woman out of her job. For being deemed insufficiently pure. Purity spiral.

Same here. And I agree with you.

stumbledin · 13/07/2020 00:32

I am genuinely shocked that some on this thread seem to think not being a feminist isn't an issue if you are part of an organisation like Refuge.

Its fundamental to providing a service that is centred on women's experience of secondary in a society where there are 2 sex classes and one has power and the other doesn't.

Not to be bothered about the underlying ethics that guide how the service is run is a daft (or quite honestly dismissive of women) as the funders who said they didn't need to bother with Eaves and its specialised services for trafficked and prostituted women because the Salvation Army could do it cheaper (and include a christian message).

Are you kidding me?

I think since Erin Pizzey moved on they are no longer promoting the idea that domestic violence is as much the women suffering violence as it is the perpetrators.

What does it say about mumsnet FWR that some think you can just contract out services. This is the race to the bottom in service provision that allows young children to be sent to non certified care homes and have no protection, or a housing body to allow an ALMO to run housing provision despite having no housing experience - think Grenfell.

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Theskyisblueithink · 12/07/2020 17:37

@Ereshkigalangcleg

“Mrs Barkworth-Nanton became involved as a domestic violence campaigner after Joanna Simpson, her best friend and a mother of two, was battered to death with a claw hammer by British Airways pilot Robert Brown, her estranged husband“

I think that's a more than fair enough reason for a woman to become a DV campaigner, to be honest.

I'm a DV survivor.

My immediate concern reading this was noting an attempt to bully and coerce a woman out of her job. For being deemed insufficiently pure. Purity spiral.

That frightens me. Where will it stop? Refuse to support or house in their refuges women who might have any possible links to something or someone not part of current prescribed acceptable think.

Defence weapons is a complex area. As other posts have pointed out weapons can and do very often play a role in protection and peacekeeping. It's no black and white issue.

Having the very personal and traumatic experience of losing her close friend to DV, she sounds ideal for the job. A real genuine motivation to help DV survivors.

I could be wrong. Time will tell. I share your concerns about the corporatisation of charities. The original (still very much needed) aims of many charities is being far too often lost. Fundraising has become a polished corporate thing yet somehow the money doesn't seem to reach the vulnerable and needy for whom it's originally intended. Having a polished charity image and providing a way for high net worth individuals to limit tax payments (via gift aid tax refunds) is the priority.

Nevertheless, in this instance her personal loss indicates a genuine desire to help DV survivors. Her connections to the weapons defence industry, a complex area, is irrelevant and should not be a reason to hound her out.

PlanDeRaccordement · 12/07/2020 16:04

Dame Stella Rimington, the former MI5 head and a former Refuge trustee, criticised its board for appointing Mrs Barkworth-Nanton

Hah. Surely that is hypocrisy? A head of an internal intelligence agency known for many human rights abuses (ie. torture) objecting to a ceo of a military arms firm on the grounds of being incompatible with a charity that abhors violence?

As for her being “non feminist” why should that matter? You can support DV refuges without being a feminist. DV is a crime, it is abhorrent to every decent person regardless of political alignment.

And military background isn’t all about projecting violence, it is also about protecting the weak and defenceless. Most people in the military are protective, defender types not war mongering sociopaths just itching to go on a blood soaked rampage.

stumbledin · 12/07/2020 15:53

Binterested - maybe its a generational thing ie my experience now out of date, but when Blair and Cameron were all about the "Third Sector" a lot of political wannabes crashed in charities.

But now maybe it is reversed those who have some history with the charity are having to fight to keep its purpose in face of SJW and woke graduates.

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Binterested · 12/07/2020 15:25

One of the biggest reasons for mission drift in charities and voluntary sector groups are Trustees who may have expertise as say accountants but have not skill or understanding of work practice

I must say that’s not my experience. I’m a trustee of a charity and the trustees are battling hard to keep the charity on mission - a challenge made for more difficult by the relentless SJW mentality of some who work in the charity sector. Those of us from outside the sector are exhausted by it.

stumbledin · 12/07/2020 15:16

This is the only other thread I can find re WAFE and Refuge - I thought there was another one www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3634009-Womens-Aid-England-loses-funding-for-National-Helpline

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stumbledin · 12/07/2020 15:09

First of all I couldn't access the full article so if anyone can there may be more info there.

Second it is well know that in areas of conflict not on sexual violence but domestic violence increase.

Stella Rimington and in fact this new Chair may both be very nice women who have empathy with DV. However charities and especially women's projects have a different ethos in terms of how they are run. So this may be more what is going on for instance (speculation) a business practice (zero hours contracts?) approach, rather than a cooperative approach based on the feminist analysis of DV.

(Stella Rimington as someone involved with surveillance, tracking etc., maybe the best or worst placed person to have in an organisation that also tries to protect women from being tracked by abusive partners through communication devices.)

re Refuge - formerly Chiswick Women's Aid - and WAFE this is a very long and old history which I think is covered in another thread which I will try and find. The founder of Chiswick WA was Erin Pizzey who became a media darling, but actually thought women were partly responsible for suffering domestic violence because of the choices they made, and that feminism was a communist plot and turned women lesbian! WAFE is the federation of Women's Refuges based on a feminist analysis of DV, ie male violence and sex class power imbalance. They conceived and developed the work practices in refuges and set up the National Helpline. This was then funded by Government but insisted that it was then put out to tender and gave the work to Refuge. This may just have been economic as Refuge has a huge income parlty because the media have always promoted Refuge as THE if not the only domestic violence service in England.

One of the biggest reasons for mission drift in charities and voluntary sector groups are Trustees who may have expertise as say accountants but have not skill or understanding of work practice. They often judge things in a business way eg if we offer services to men, trans people or ... we will get a bigger income. Rather than thinking it is better to stay small a specialised. eg Women's Pioneer Housing decided not to expand as they felt they wouldn't be able to maintian core values. Housing Associations are the best / worst exmple of how a pursuit for income generating over prioritising specialised service leads to near total illimination of original aims, even when the needs exists.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2020 14:34

“Mrs Barkworth-Nanton became involved as a domestic violence campaigner after Joanna Simpson, her best friend and a mother of two, was battered to death with a claw hammer by British Airways pilot Robert Brown, her estranged husband“

I think that's a more than fair enough reason for a woman to become a DV campaigner, to be honest.

Binterested · 12/07/2020 12:53

I find this story odd. Do we not want a national defence ? The magical thinking of the charity sector depresses me.

I don’t know what’s meant by anti-feminist either. Unless it means feminists are anti war which is either a truism, in that we are all anti war, or nonsense.

wellbehavedwomen · 12/07/2020 12:50

I know WAFE has had its own problems with it's CEO (still not replaced) but as the founders of DV services in this country it is inappropriate that an organisation that was set up to challenge feminist analysis of domestic violence keeps getting Government contracts.

Can you explain that? In what way was Refuge set up to challenge feminist analysis of domestic violence? Genuinely know nothing about this?