Parents throw second gender reveal party for transgender child

Remember when we would have threads on here where dads/mils were complaining that buying a boy a baby doll to play with would ‘make them gay’.

Do the same type of adults now believe that giving a boy a baby doll will ‘make them trans’ or ‘make them change sex’?

I fucking hated dolls and pink things, and loved my brio train set and cars.

I despair at what adults would tell me about myself and do to me if I were aged 6 these days.

Why is Transgender Trend's watchful waiting approach considered so damn controversial?

The kid is SIX.

For fucks sake.

It wouldn’t be as much of a problem if you knew that the child could eventually outgrow the parents’ ridiculous ideas around gender without harm, but the reason everyone here is rightly outraged is because this child has now been set on a pathway that will lead to harm from medical treatments. Only a significant revelation of its own or a sensible clinical approach - of which there aren’t many in the USA will prevent it.

At that age how often is it the other way round? How often do parents worry that their six-year-old daughters are boys?

There have been a fair few threads where the op has expressed anger/upset at their baby girls being mistaken for boys.

There's been at least one case of those stupid bow things that parents buy and put on the babies head probably so the world can he sure to make no mistake about the babies sex , actually suffocating the baby.

Dd2 looked like a frog when she was born. If i was asked if she was a boy or girl I'd say but ofteh that old man/lady on the bus would just go " oooh isn't he lovely " no offence intended but that does seem to piss people off

I really don't know why so many people are so bothered about what they have and why they over think the child's entire life with regards to what they plan to buy to wear or play with or what activities to sign up for.

Far to much attached to trivialities. And besides ballet and gymnastics are not easy , anyone who can do it well is extremely impressive and they are fab base skills for football, rugby, boxing etc

So kid wants to be like mum or dad? Lord - Dad was an engineer and used to visit sites with his hard hat, wellies, clipboard and telescope and we used the play dress up with these. Much more fun than dressing up like mum (who was quite glam but didn’t have a hard hat, wellies, clipboard and telescope).

My dd had doll's as a child but hardly played with them. 2 years later along came DS who loved dad's doll's and had an ironing board for Xmas when he was 3. I just let them share toys. DS did not show any feminine traits. He is normal adult male. Dd is a Mum of 2 and I'd such s good Mum. Leave kids alone to be kids and play.

I hate the thought of some parents pumping their kids full of opposite sex chemicals and clothing. It is sick.

When kids grow up they often go through various phases. When they are over 18 they can make their own choices.

When she began talking and expressing herself, I realised there was more to it. She would talk about wanting hair as long as mine and wanting to wear the same clothes as me

This is an entirely age appropriate stage in childhood development. It's well known and very well researched that many children first identify with the main carer (often the mother) and seek to dress in their clothes and mimic whatever activities that parent does.

Also, up to about age eight, children believe that if a boy puts on a dress, he becomes a girl. So if a five year old boy puts on a dress, twirls and declares himself to be a girl, he's not expressing his "gender identity" (whatever the fuck that is) but he expresses his unshakeable belief that people are what they appear to be.

Only between the ages of eight and twelve do children learn to truly distinguish between reality and imagination, which is an important stage in their development.

Not a stage that child has reached yet.

DS wanted to be a dog at one point - or rather he talked in dog barks sometimes and I used to answer.

Then he wanted to be a motorcycle policeman with a dog. Then he fancied being an ecologist. Then a games designer. Now he in interesting in finance.

Kids huh.

These people are fucking sick, there is no such thing as a trans child in the same way there is no such thing as a Christian child or a Muslim child, they don’t have the capacity to make these decisions or understand what they’re signing up for.

Were they never children themselves? Have they never met a gender non-conforming person before or did it not occur to them that different personalities like different things.

It makes me so angry because if the parents and the school affirm this then how will the child know they can change their mind or that they even have a choice, they have no frame of reference.

Kenneth Zucker is a psychologist who helped get childhood gender dysphoria into the DSM. He’s now persona non grata because in his clinic he used to let the kids play with whatever toys they wanted, wear whatever clothes etc while counselling the kid and parents - but crucially he refused to affirm the child’s chosen gender (so he wouldn’t have called this child a girl). He observed that most kids desisted and were not trans as adults. Anyway, he noticed that a lot of the time parents and families were really weird about gender. Little boys would want to play with barbies and the dad would say no and try to get them to play with balls instead. There would be mums who really wanted a girl , on the other hand, and would push their child to wear dresses. Zucker just got the whole family to chill out and stop gendering activities and clothes so much.

It’s a shame because in the past at the very worst the kid would have been banned from wearing dresses (and that was considered a cruel therapy). Nowadays he faces hormonal blockers , cross sex hormones, and eventually surgery.

My 7yo is dinosaur obsessed and just asked for her hair to be cut short. She wants to be an explorer.
She also identifies as a witch and wants to go to Miss Cackles Academy.

So is she a witch or a boy? Or... A very imaginative girl who just wants to be herself?

I can definitely remember as a child I wanted to marry my cat.

Ds2 used to walk around the house in a satin top of mine, it was a knee length 'dress' on him. He loved wearing my high heels too. He particularly liked my knee high brown boots as wearing one of them made him look like a pirate. And it sounded like a wooden leg if he wore it in the kitchen.
He went through a phase of insisting he was a dog called Jake. He refused to answer to his human name.
He has long hair now, longer and much nicer than mine.
Both DSs played with and breastfed dolls.
Both did dance classes
Ds1 loves to sew.

Neither like football. Or any sports really.

Im so glad no one ever transed them.

Julie, who works as a nurse, and her husband Daniel, a lineman, thought Ella, now six, would eventually grow out of it and encouraged her to play sports such as baseball and tried to get her interested in her other toys.

However, when Ella threw her fists down in frustration, Julie knew that her child was transgender and took the family to counselling to try to find the best solution.

Riiight. So parents had very set ideas of what boys were supposed to be like, and their child didn't conform. Just like every single transition story ever it's all based in sexist bullshit.

And please, let's notice the latent violence obliquely referenced that meant the transgender route was chosen. This child has all the cues they need to learn that the world is deeply gendered, and that some fist action will get you what you want. That's a little TRA tantrum activist in the making right there, with a father who didn't want his son to have too many girly toys, and a mother equally as sexist, ready to enable it all.

I have read so many of these testimonies, spoken to so many trans people about their experiences, and it's never any different. It's always sexism. It's always prejudice. It's always peppered with fancies or outright lies. Most of it is sincerely meant, and the people in question rarely see it themselves. Which is why they think it's reasonable. It's not.

What twats they sound.

My dd was a dog the whole year she was four. She sat in a dog shape on a cushion as she wasn’t allowed on the sofa. She made me put her water in a bowl. She only answered to her dog name. She talked in barks. She would ask if she was best in show after I brushed her hair for school.

@patas I don’t think most of these people think that far ahead. They don’t see past the pink dresses and pig tails.

Also I wonder if they’re Christians. That is often a factor in these cases, according to the whistle blower at the Tavistock. Some parents would rather their DC was trans and put it through all that medication and surgery and unknown future, than admit they have a gay child.

DD2 spent a few months where she insisted she was a dog and would crawl round the house barking. Funnily enough we didn't see a doctor about her trans species behaviour and funnily enough she grew out of it.

I spent a lot of my childhood wishing I could be a horse. Thank goodness my parents stayed strong and didn’t organise me a leg/fur transplant.

When my son was about 3 he announced he wasn’t a boy. He was a train. Thomas the Tank Engine to be exact.
He has now de-transitioned and is a boy again

De-trainsitioned, surely?

My DB, aged about 3, asked our DM when he was going to turn into a girl. His logic was that he was third of three and his older siblings were both girls, so that was something that must have happened to them and would inevitably happen to him, too. He wasn't anxious, just curious, and he accepted it readily enough when told his case was different and he wouldn't be changing.

I shudder to think what might happen now to a child who asked a similar question.

I was so shocked that we were having another boy because everyone thought it would be a girl – including me.

Blatantly just wanted a DD. I don’t know why these people don’t just go down the IVF PGD sex selection route, rather than trying to change the DC they already have.