Parents throw second gender reveal party for transgender child

Why do they have to make such a big deal of it - it’s blatant attention seeking from the parents. Talking about their children to the media. Making it so much harder for the child if it turns out that they are perfectly fine with being a boy. And why are these children always super feminine ( and often sexualised- weird hand on - hip pose). They are never a ‘girl’ who likes football or a ‘girl’ who wears jeans and a t-shirt and wants to get muddy. It’s like being what we used to call ‘camp’ is the worst thing ever.

My son is 6 and enjoys having his nails painted, sometimes wears his sister’s hair clips, and loves a bit of pink. He also loves smart shirts, trains, and Captain Underpants. He chooses colourful outfits and I am actually very proud that he knows that anyone can wear/play with everything, and that nothing is ‘for boys’ or ‘for ‘girls’. (My 3yo DD is the opposite for some reason and always picks pink because it’s ‘for girls’, the conditioning seems to have hit her harder).

It’s only occurred to me recently that some
people would see DS’ fondness for colourful fingernails as something more than just that. Eye opening.

MinorArcana yes, I think it is about ‚trying to copy‘ at that age. That is very much how my son‘s inquest felt like. But these days the ‚woke‘ fraction (I considered myself part of at one point) will shout you down for murdering his soul for telling him the obvious.

When she began talking and expressing herself, I realised there was more to it. She would talk about wanting hair as long as mine and wanting to wear the same clothes as me

This is about as believable as a two year old Jazz Jennings supposedly saying "I want a vagina." These are not things that toddlers come out with.

I don’t know about how normal it is for toddlers to say things like that, but when one of my DS’s was a similar age and I was pregnant with his younger sibling, he said that he was a girl and that when he grew up he wanted to have a baby in his tummy like I did and be a mummy.

He went off the idea of being a girl after I told him that, while he could be a daddy, someone born a boy can never grow a baby in their tummy. I just took it all as him wanting to copy me rather than a declaration of trans-ness.

I also had a little train instead of a little boy for a while.

My little boy thought at a point that when he grew up, he would become a woman, like me. He also wanted the very same dress I had. As a scientist who at the same time had blindly accepted the prevailing narrative (you can be what you want...), I was really torn.
I decided (hesitantly) to tell him that he would always have his male body, penis and all, but that shouldn’t limit him in how to dress or anything, those were just silly arbitrary rules.
I felt awful ,shattering his dreams‘ like that. Turned out it wasn‘t a big deal for him at all. The thing was settled for him and he didn’t even care for some dress going forward.
I guess, what I am saying is that (while I am not disputing that gender dysphoria in kids does happen and sure is difficult to navigate) the current culture encourages parents to overinterpret their kids‘ utterances which may lead to parents unnecessarily confusing their kids and sending them on wild goose chases. I know I almost did. And I feel quite silly for it in hind sight.

Anyone who has ‘gender-reveal parties’ shows just how important gender is To them as a label, before the child is even here.
They’re one of the things in my list of things we've inherited from the US that should be done away with (along with high school proms and Trick or treating)

@BeeBeep same here. All my friends were boys at primary school and I wanted a train set for my 5th birthday.
I loved meccano, Lego and how things worked. Still do Mum said she would have been worried had I been growing up today.

At the last election I completed an extensive “who do I vote for?” questionnaire and it came out 25% Tory, 25% Labour, 25%Lib Dem and 25% Green.

DS (3) has asked to grow his hair long, like mine. Didn’t realise this made him a girl 🤷🏻‍♀️

I used to play with a lot of boys toys, wear my brothers hand me downs, me and my best friend (before we understood the concept of marriage fully) used to say we would get married, and I would be the man. Not sure why really, but at the time it wasn't anything to do with actual attraction, but a straight forward, you're my favourite person I'd like to spend forever with you as best friends- we grew out of that once we understood what it actually was. But it terrifies me now that some would be keen to convince me that I should be a boy. Why not just push for things to not be for boys and for girls. I also wonder about having 2 sons and they wanted a daughter, other than a fleeting 'anything is possible' toddler and young childness fleeting comment, there must have been some sway or validation from somewhere.

The Christian/right wing thing is very US based. In the UK it's left wing Christians and other religious minded people who are eagerly embracing this. See the Ozanne foundation, Steve Chalke's Oasis organization etc. Very liberal minded, and totally all about the transing. Not even the slightest bit of self awareness about how conservative trans ideology is. To the point where they actually recently released a statement condemning the use of the phrase 'trans ideology', but haven't a word to say about regressive stereotypes or the issues around LGB people.

It's not mainly the US. It's here too.

What is more, most Christians who are aware of what’s happening are growing increasingly concerned at the erasure of woman and women’s rights.

I'm really pleased to hear this. Please can you encourage your community to speak up. We need more voices to be heard.

This makes me sick to my stomach.

The ‘Christian’/ ‘right-wing’ thing is very specifically US based. And Canadian.
Interestingly though, the minute you open your mouth as GC in North America, it is assumed you are from a conservative Christian community. It’s usually churches and representatives who are pushing back against trans ideology in education, for example. Because anyone else won’t dare to. That’s where the Posie Parker is in league with right wing fundamental Christian blah blah nonsense came from. Because no one else is allowed to believe in biology. Because gender ideology and sexuality is part of the newer curriculums, anyone who speaks out about gender ideology is assumed to also be anti-gay (and tbf, most of them are, which is why it’s so problematic to include the T in a list if sexualities.)
Ergo, if you believe in biology, you must also be homophobic. It makes it very easy to dismiss anyone GC as a religious crank not worthy of listening to.
It’s a very North American assumption and doesn’t really translate to Britain.
I bloody hate it.
The only ones targeting school boards about gender teachings genuinely DO have a problem with same sex relationships.

WTF?! The professionals involved should be struck off.

@LittleEntrepeneur as a Christian myself I find the ideas of Christian parents pushing for transition pretty unbelievable.
Most Christians I know are really concerned about the trans teaching of children being able to chose gender. The bible says “He created them male and female”. There is only sex.
What is more, most Christians who are aware of what’s happening are growing increasingly concerned at the erasure of woman and women’s rights.
A good description of woman is found in Proverbs 31 verse 10 onwards. She’s not only a wife and mother but a shrewd and independent businesswoman - quite different from the stereotypical view of a meek and submissive Christian woman that many people hold.

When ds1 was little he adored hoovers and would happily push them around for hours. When aged 3 I asked him what he wanted for Christmas, he dragged me out of the toy section (where we were - silly me - thinking he might have wanted toys to play with ) and down to the Hoover section where he asked for a Vax, a Henry Hoover and a Dyson instead

Needless to say neither Santa nor I were generous enough to stump up for a single new vacuum cleaner, let alone 3!

But it does make me wonder how others would react if he was little now - would loving hoovering these days be deemed a stereotypical female thing? Amongst plenty of other toys of all sorts, e also had a baby doll - and a baby brother that he hw saw both his mum and dad looking after. So would that be seen as a female stereotype? Or a male, being a good father stereotype? As a female who loathes housework I’m certainly not going to tell my son that hoovering is for girls rather than boys - especially as he would happily ‘play’ hoovering for ages and learnt to be very careful if he wanted to do it for longer (method in my madness!) - now at 15 he sadly isn’t as keen to play hoovering as he was - football and fortnite hold much more appeal - but if it needs doing it’s a chore I can set him to do and know that he can whistle around the room quickly and efficiently and quite happily (against doing other chores - we are talking 15 yr old after all!)

This is shocking. That poor little boy is six years old. So what if he likes dolls and dressing up. He is far too young to have an understanding of what his identity really is, they're still in the very early stages of figuring that out at that age. Poor, poor kid is going to be so very confused as he grows up. The parents might be well intentioned, but it seems abusive to me.

Just let kids be kids and grow up to be who they will be FFS

A 6 yr old who is trans? I honestly think its a criminal mind-fuck.

And I didn’t like dolls either - they scared the bejesus out of me (apart from automatons for some reason).