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coming out as non-binary changed my sex life for the better: I don't understand?!

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fuckinghellapeacock · 10/07/2020 22:59

I really don't understand the 'non-binary" aspect of this article. Can anyone shed any light?

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sefleenor/coming-out-as-nonbinary-changed-my-sex-life-for-the-better?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BuzzFeed%20News%20-%20July%2010%2C%202020&utm_term=News%20confirmed%20list

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Collidascope · 11/07/2020 06:45

So the gist is:

Gender roles are oppressive. (Yep, with you so far)

Puberty is difficulty and growing breasts is awful. (Yeah)

I felt pressure to behave the way society expects women to behave. (Again, yeah)

I dealt with this by saying I'm not a woman, so I don't have to do that shitty woman stuff anymore. Leave that to the real women who are all extremely comfortable with being rail thin and focusing on men's sexual pleasure above their own. (Aaarrgh!)

Also being trans gave me a sympathetic community and validation for my choices. (Well, most oppressed group ever, etc.)

Imagine if the first wave feminists had done that. Said "we want to vote and work and wear trousers and have short hair - because we're actually not women! You just keep oppressing those actual women who like being treated like chattel."

nepeta · 11/07/2020 03:39

Almost everyone in the real world is nonbinary in the sense that few of us exactly match the extreme gender stereotypes. But having it as a separate category of gender identities means that others are then assumed to be in those extreme categories (think of the Gi Joe and the Barbie doll). That is why I find it pernicious. It supports rigid gender roles with only one out.

CaptainCorellisPangolin · 11/07/2020 03:12

Well, it wasn't Shakespeare.
Look, I am glad that she and J have each other. They seem to love each other very much and that is wonderful.
However, that article is so self obsessive that it feels almost intrusive to read, like you've entered into someone's inner monologue about them and them alone. Really, it is a very long narration of a very ordinary thing.

LaGoulueRevenue · 11/07/2020 02:31

Gosh, that is achingly self indulgent.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 11/07/2020 02:01

Crumbs!

JellyfishandShells · 11/07/2020 00:24

Good grief - that was hard to get through. What a fatuous load of drivel : people change, people have hang ups, relationships change, - it’s what happens to everyone to some degree or another. This person’s insistence that it is all about the labels isn’t helpful either because those new labels come with their own set of expectations,

Just be a decent human behaving decently to other humans that you have a sexual/romantic relationship with.

FloralBunting · 10/07/2020 23:59

This is why I will never not mock the concept of non binary. Because it absolutely positions women as walking sex dolls for men.

PermanentTemporary · 10/07/2020 23:58

Well. I'm glad they've been able to let go of some of their internalised misogyny. Sad that they had to label this 'transition' but whatever it takes. Transition as a cultural escape hatch has never looked clearer.

Deliriumoftheendless · 10/07/2020 23:51

Whilst it could have been condensed into “when I stopped trying to live up to an impossible standard, I found I was actually normal.” there’s an element of a very sad woman trying to deal with her past in there.

How have people come to believe these aren’t special or uncommon feelings?

TehBewilderness · 10/07/2020 23:24

It is just one long note from their boner, innit?

WombOfOnesOwn · 10/07/2020 23:13

Apparently this woman felt that in order to have a sex life that wasn't about performing for a man and giving him the best orgasms ever, plus performing her own pretend "mind-blowing orgasms" to give him a sexual ego boost, she had to say she wasn't a woman at all. Because, see, now she's a PERSON, not one of those pesky woman-things who is there for the enjoyment of others.