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BBC removes trans charities from support page

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teawamutu · 10/07/2020 18:47

From Penis News, but hopefully this link won't give them revenues:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20200710172219/www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/07/10/bbc-gender-identity-support-mermaids-lgbt-transgender-non-binary/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20200710172219/www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/07/10/bbc-gender-identity-support-mermaids-lgbt-transgender-non-binary/

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/07/2020 09:57

@Wolfgirrl

Have mermaids responded in any way?
From twitter

Following the @BBC's decision to remove all trans organisations for England, Scotland and Wales from their website, we have submitted an FOI request for internal communications relating to the decision. We are interested to see how and why trans organisations have been targeted.

Is the @bbc saying one thing to the public and another to its staff? Img 1 is the stock response. Img 2 is from an internal email.
Our FOI is submitted to find out why they decided to cut all trans orgs covering Eng/Scot/Wales from their new support page. t.co/5ZtTFhG9Zo t.co/K27IyGGWvo

highame · 30/07/2020 09:56

I wonder if there's something going on regarding 'deception', that might be surfacing in the near future. I might be wrong but the (putting it kindly) overlooking of the Law regarding the EA by these groups has been massively dangerous to women's rights and has been done by stealth.

The lawyers at the BBC must be checking over every single piece of information they have.

I want a public enquiry, and I'm going to finish all my posts with that sentence

Wolfgirrl · 30/07/2020 09:51

Have mermaids responded in any way?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 30/07/2020 09:50

All trans groups are surprisingly quiet about this.

Curiouser and curiouser.

highame · 30/07/2020 09:18

Mumsnet is a great resource for journalists. I wish more of them would dip in. It's just the clever ones who do😁

Janice and reporters like her are the reason I've gone over to the Times

SenselessUbiquity · 30/07/2020 09:07

I reckon she's on here - I saw the Jimmy Savile / wrong side of history" comment on here first.

Hi Janice! :)

ErrolTheDragon · 30/07/2020 09:01

[quote highame]@Goyle is that today[/quote]
Yes, here's a sharetoken link

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-travel-bug-cant-survive-with-this-virus-3lkqhmqll?shareToken=b8eb07ba82ea03ac17927871ce4e49ed

Overthisnonsensedotcom · 30/07/2020 09:01

It has made The Times. www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/mermaids-and-other-trans-groups-dropped-by-bbc-advice-line-service-2fsjp9zpb

Removed links as BBC must be impartial

Datun · 30/07/2020 08:58

From upthread. I can't see that the response would be any different?

Oh well, that's that particular avenue of pleasure closed off.

bishopgiggles · 30/07/2020 08:53

[quote OldCrone]I would be really interested to know the decision making behind this.

Someone tried to find out via FOI, and they refused because:

The information you have requested is excluded from the Act because if held it would be held for the purposes of ‘journalism, art or literature.’ The BBC is therefore not obliged to provide this information to you and will not be doing so on this occasion. Part VI of Schedule 1 to FOIA provides that information held by the BBC and the other public service broadcasters is only covered by the Act if it is held for ‘purposes other than those of journalism, art or literature”. The BBC is not required to supply information held for the purposes of creating the BBC’s output or information that supports and is closely associated with these creative activities.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/information_and_support_gender_i#incoming-1606151[/quote]
From upthread. I can't see that the response would be any different?

Floisme · 30/07/2020 08:29

I'm not going to get too excited about the FOI - I'm pretty sure the last time I saw one published, it was full of redactions. Although that in itself tells you most of what you wanted to know.

Floisme · 30/07/2020 08:27

I can't believe I've only just caught up with this thread Blush I'd seen the title but I'd just assumed the BBC had done it by mistake.

I'm choosing my words carefully but it feels kind of significant.
And now I won't get a scrap of work done today.

Goyle · 30/07/2020 08:09

@highame yes it is:)

Aesopfable · 30/07/2020 08:07

The great thing about FOIs is they are available to everyone.

CaveMum · 30/07/2020 07:37
BBC removes trans charities from support page
Datun · 30/07/2020 07:35

I wonder what the FOI will lead to. Unless the BBC assumed they would be subject to one from the off, the internal emails and meetings will be interesting.

As will the reaction of Mermaids to them.

And the countering of the BBC to that.

Etc.

Kit19 · 30/07/2020 07:28

Describing The charities as “victims” is an interesting word to use.....

And by interesting I mean deliberately emotive

highame · 30/07/2020 07:22

@Goyle is that today

Goyle · 30/07/2020 07:16

From Janice Turner (@victoriapeckham on Twitter) in her Times column.

BBC removes trans charities from support page
highame · 30/07/2020 07:16

The BBC must be under masses of pressure right now. I wonder if they'll cave

boatyardblues · 30/07/2020 07:09

The shift in framing in that article is interesting:

The charities appear to have become victims of a dispute between trans activists and campaigners who believe that the rights and safety of women are being undermined.

Not feminists, not women but campaigners.

WhittlingIhopMonkey · 30/07/2020 07:06

@Ereshkigalangcleg

She'd be saying that "Votes for Women" is a transphobic slogan as many women already have the vote.
I love this! So very true. She is not a friend to women.
highame · 29/07/2020 12:23

So how do you get this story out there?

ThePurported · 29/07/2020 11:58

Oh sorry, I didn't know it had finished.
I guess Mermaids can't decide whether to draw attention to the fact that one of their major supporters has stopped promoting them.